Recent content by Mindmaze1001

Were you okay with the Internet price before you went to check out the car? You mention being ready to buy, but they wouldn't budge. I found the advise on this forum extremely helpful. Find the car you want (check inventory and then go look at it). Then go home and negotiate with Internet...

did it Well, On Dec. 31, 2007 I bought my first 4r Limited. I paid dealers invoice. I did it through the Internet Sales desk and it was in stock and ready to go when I showed up. No additional surprises or pressure to add on anything. And guess what!!!, I'm loving it everyday! This forum...

next If I order a 2008 4runner, is a salesperson more likely to work with me since they don't have to do any marketing, don't have to hold it on the lot, and they will without a doubt get the holdback? Or is this not advised? Thanks again. I hate buying cars! Very frustrating. Think how...

bummer Thought I had a deal. $267.00 under invoice..... then found out it was a demo with 3000 miles on it. Asked if it would come with a discount.... NO. All the other cars in stock have extra options I don't need that jack the price up. Makes me wonder if he knew it was a demo in the...

is this right Okay - if I have read this correctly, Dealer adds Marketing and Advertising fees, plus holdback (even though they get that holdback amount from Manufacturer) to Dealers invoice. I am paying for their advertising and paying them a holdback amount they will get anyways? So, in...

I'm looking at buying a 2008 4runner. I've done my homework - Consumer Reports, Edmunds and etc. I found a car I'd like to buy, contacted Internet sales desk. Got a fax for dealers invoice. There is a $3,300 price difference on what Consumer Reports and Edmunds say is dealers invoice and...