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    Toyota just updated their website (2021 4Runners)

    Haha, great analogy. Color is another reason why I didn't buy a 4runner. They need way more colors than they have offered over the past several years. I like the Cement but it was only available on a past TRD Pro. Of course now it appears to be coming back. I'm not sure what they're doing with...
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    Toyota just updated their website (2021 4Runners)

    You're not wrong, Jeeps are pretty bad on the highway. But that's not what it's going to be primarily used for. It will be a grocery getter and off-road vehicle. I have a place I stay in the summer near Tahoe and it will see countless miles off-road. It may seem strange, but I feel a little...
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    Toyota just updated their website (2021 4Runners)

    Haha! Yeah. I've enjoyed this forum and will continue to read here. I've looked at tons of posts and builds and if I don't like the Rubicon, then I'll trade it in on something else, perhaps a 4Runner.
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    Toyota just updated their website (2021 4Runners)

    Do you also communicate with language or are you limited to emojis?
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    Toyota just updated their website (2021 4Runners)

    I hemmed and hawed over a 4Runner for well over a year. What stopped me was the 5 speed tranny and the relatively poor fuel mileage. I decided that I wanted something newer in terms of technology, etc. I would have purchased the Bronco except it doesn't even exist yet, and they're talking 2022...
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    How much are people paying for the NEW 4Runner?

    I thought the plant opened back up in May?
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    Have you seen this?

    Honestly the 400 lb ft of torque on that Ecoboost, with a 0-60 time under 6 seconds, is good enough for me. I figured I'd post a link since most of the guys around here like to off-road.
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    Have you seen this?

    I just stumbled upon it but was looking at the off road equipment and it seems pretty beefy. And with the available 2.7 liter Ecoboost and 10 speed tranny, it seems like a winner to me. I kind of like the 2 door over the 4 door looks wise. I have been casually considering a 4Runner for a while...
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    Have you seen this?

    Seems legit. https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco/2021/
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    Cargo trailer size?

    Yes, it is. I tow a 7x16 with a 1 ton diesel dually and you can really tell it's back there. They're like a giant billboard that catches the wind. I couldn't imagine towing one loaded with a 4Runner.
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    How much are people paying for the NEW 4Runner?

    The chatter everywhere is how it's all going to bounce back in some super V-shaped recovery. Meanwhile, we've got 50 million newly unemployed. There's a lot of BS going on out there.
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    How much are people paying for the NEW 4Runner?

    Every aftermarket paint job I've gotten has been garbage. And these weren't Earl Scheib jobs, either. From now on when a vehicle needs paint, I get a new vehicle.
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    How much are people paying for the NEW 4Runner?

    From what I saw, Toyota actually took away $500 of incentive money on the 2020 4Runner. I really don't understand this logic. Just does not scream "winning strategy." The local Toyota dealer has sold almost NOTHING in the past month. And they have a sheetload of cars and trucks on their lot.
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    Special order: Am I doing it wrong?

    I did not say they didn't exist, I was saying I've never seen one. Each and every ORP I have looked at has a moonroof. Not sure why that is. And, it's annoying because I, too, don't want one. I have had nothing but trouble with them every time I have had one.
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    How much are people paying for the NEW 4Runner?

    From what I read here, the OTD price people are quoting oftentimes does not include tax. That's why it's quite confusing trying to ascertain what's a good deal and what's not.

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