View Poll Results: What gen 4Runner is best off-road?
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1st gen
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353 |
18.05% |
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2nd gen
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153 |
7.82% |
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3rd gen
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39.21% |
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4th gen
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16.41% |
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I don't know, dirt has never touched the tires
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2.61% |
I don't know, dirt has never touched the tires
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2.61% |
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They're all evenly matched
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3.43% |
They're all evenly matched
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3.43% |
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I don't know, haven't had the chance yet
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12.47% |
I don't know, haven't had the chance yet
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12.47% |
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12-31-2005, 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by 4wheeln98
I have been in sand, snow, and mud and my 3rd gen has never gotten stuck. It does real well in 4wd. Just got new pirelli A/T scorpions so it should do even better then my A/W tires. now it just needs to snow!
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Don't get too excited yet. I had the Pirelli A/T Scorpions on my Bronco and although they were great in the rain and on boat ramps, I was VERY unhappy with them in snow. In fact, the BFG A/T's I had on the truck before I bought the Pirelli's did much better. Plus, they didn't flat spot in the winter. The Pirelli's drove like they were square tires for the first 5 miles or so in cold weather.
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12-31-2005, 09:37 PM
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I've never driven previous generations off-road, but my 4th Gen. is very capable. In terms of off-roading mods, I only have Terra Grappler Tires and a 2.5" lift, but at a recent run in the snow, I was the only 4Runner that never needed the assistance of a tow strap:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showth...threadid=14984
If the course was more technical I'm sure I would have needed help too, but as described by my fellow off-roaders that day, I "walked" over all the obstacles without any problems.
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11-07-2006, 02:51 AM
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Personally i believe that the 1st gens(esp '95s) are most capable. considering the fact i drive a second and usually go out with my friend who had a 3rd i know they can compete too. but after seeing 1st gens with simple, inexpensice lifts that will go through anything ive been convince they are most capable offroad. the only time the cant compete is when you are doing high speed offroading when that ifs comes into play. i dont see how a 4th gen can be in the running. i have yet to see one in action but they just dont look very offroad-able. im sure that big'ol V8 is a huge plus but unless you have plenty of extra money to put into one i dont think that they could keep on an actual trail.
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11-14-2006, 03:26 PM
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3rd gen all the way (99-02 w/ factory e-locker) in the stock category
if you raise them all the same, it would still be the 3rd gen. lockers double your capability
if the 3rd gen isnt locked, then perhaps atrac would win...BUT 3rd gen's with lockers will spank some atrac ass (and it all depends on drivers, some are the best...most are terrible)
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12-05-2006, 11:06 AM
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Hope y'all don't mind a Tacoma guy gettin in on this thread, but it's been my experience that vehicle make and model is not the primary factor while negotiating obstacles while off-road. Driver skill is the key! You can give a person with very little offroad driving experience a built to the hilt rig but it still won't make him anymore knowledgable in picking proper lines or making his offroad driving ability any better.
Just my two cents!
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01-13-2007, 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by Northof49
For a hardcore strictly off-road rig it would have to be a pre IFS 1st gen.
Solid axles are easiest to lift and install lockers in. It's also the smallest, has metal bumpers and, hell, the ROOF comes OFF......essential for good offroading
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This guy hit the nail on the head.
And you don't have to rely on aftermarket bolt-on stuff, you can fab your own.
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01-13-2007, 05:49 AM
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1st gen all the way for moddability.
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02-01-2007, 05:02 AM
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I've owned only the first and second gens, and I would have to say the 1st gen s got my vote, I beat the living snot out of the 22r with no problem. Tried the same stuff with my 3.0 I had b/4 my T4R and didn't even compare durability wise...
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02-19-2007, 01:43 PM
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1985 was the last year for the solid axle front. 1985 and below are hands down the best for offroading. so many aftermarket options as far as gears/lockers etc.
IFS = not good for anything more than moderate trail riding.
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04-08-2007, 09:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Brando182
IFS = not good for anything more than moderate trail riding.
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That's BS. IFS will do amazing things if you're willing to push it.
I've wheeled with 3 friends that have wheeled the heck out of their IFS trucks in the rocks with IFS. Some suspension, tires, lockers, armor (same stuff you'd do for a solid axle truck) and you can do it with IFS. Just carry some spare front axles just in case. IFS CVs, like solid axle Birfs, are the weak spot.
Solid axle trucks are tougher and more buildable initially, but you can always SAS an IFS truck and even the playing field.
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05-25-2007, 11:46 PM
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I can show you how I voted
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I own a 2nd Gen with "6 lift and 35's. Though I have not done a SAS to it yet, its wheels very nice, except for the 3.Slow, other wise it would be a nice power plant and capable off-road vehicle.
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07-22-2007, 07:57 AM
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I voted for the last option. While I've had my 3rd gen offroad, I've never had any of the other 3 offroad. I've driven a 2nd gen once, and my moms 07 Sport a few times, but thats it.
I will say the reasons I picked the 3rd gen are:
1. It was in my budget ..almost
2. Stunning good looks! (hey, I wanna look good stuck)
3. Factory locker option
4. I would have cried and shit when I scratched up a 4th gen.
5. Best factory powerplant options in my budget.
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09-11-2007, 04:10 PM
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All I can say is that as I have gone wheeling, I do all I can with what I have and then build it up more. The more I do the more I can wheel. I started with a stock '86 which did ok but in So. Utah I live in rocks and IFS just doesn't offer the flex that a solid axle does. I can now climb just about anything but I am far from stock.
So for the type of wheeling I do I would have to vote for anything with a solid axle.
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09-11-2007, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
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... and, hell, the ROOF comes OFF......essential for good offroading
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haha, I like this one too, the best thing about my jeep is that it has no top... and 90% of the time no doors, I even fold the windshield down from time to time, offroading (like a woman) is much better topless!
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