03-11-2019, 05:07 PM
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Yes, Hurrah Pass-Chicken Corners offers some of the best scenery in Utah. It is also the closest thing to White Rim alternative for people not having the time for the WRR.
Hurrah Pass is the trail to the top of the pass. CC starts there.
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Thanks for the info!
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03-20-2019, 02:45 PM
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I just got back from Moab and I wish I had reached out on this forum first to see what trails would be possible in my stock 5th gen. I did at least order the Guide to Moab book which helped. I stuck to all the green or "easy" trails and still hit my side steps and rear diff a couple times. Even with all the recent rainfall there I only needed to use 4hi once. This last trip however did show me that I really need to learn more about offroading/driving before buying a lift or anything else. According to the book, I should have been able to handle all the easy trails and a few of the moderate ones with my stock 4runner.
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03-20-2019, 03:30 PM
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Glad you got some trail experience. There's no substitute for being there and doing it. It struck me, though, that you said you only used 4hi once (presumably meaning you never used 4lo at all), and that you hit your running boards and your diff a couple of times.
Those might be related. When the road gets at all rough, don't hesitate to drop into 4lo. Lo-range isn't just for climbing steep hills, it's also for controlling your speed so you can maneuver over tricky obstacles slowly and carefully.
Whenever I'm on a dirt road where my top speed is likely to remain below 20 mph, and there are intermittent obstacles that require 5 mph or less, I leave the vehicle in 4lo. It just drives much better that way.
Of course, a spotter is also invaluable as you are getting the feel of your ground clearance, and learning just what obstacles you can drive over without hitting.
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03-20-2019, 03:43 PM
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Hey OP!
I'm new to the forum, but I took my 2016 Tacoma through a ton of different difficulty stuff with the following mods:
2 inch lift in front, 3 inch rear, 265/75/16s, THICK RCI front skid, and small prerunner bumper (for approach angle)
I'd wager to say your rig is just as capable if not more. The key is to use a spotter and take things slow and at as level of an angle as you can. Stay away from the "optional" stuff and make sure everyone's oil pans are covered and you will have an absolute blast!
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03-20-2019, 06:54 PM
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I took a stock trail on hells revenge and hurrah pass and chicken corners. It did way more than i thought stock and on cheap walmart ATs. Those trucks are insanely capable without any mods. My opinion is just air down and you'll be golden
Hells revenge took myself, stock 4runner and two brothers, stock tacomas about 6-7 hours but we stopped quite a bit and took every line as hard as we could manage without breaking equipment. Like someone has said stop and check on hells gate, the escalator and the bowls for a fun show. We thought about taking hells gate, right up to the point i walked up to the entrance and was a hard hell no for me on stock. But did get to see a couple of dirt bikes go after it which is super fun, plus it tends to draw a crowd when someone sees people at the exit of hells gate. People want a show.
Hurrah pass is just nothing like it. It is BEAUTIFUL! It can be creepy once you get to chicken corners but omg is it worth it. And one spot that's blm camping that can get you close to the colorado. Can not recommend hurrah pass enough. Hells revenge was fun, except that first hill climb towards the top that pushes the front out into the air. But the sites on Hurrah are amazing. Enough that i am going back the 10th of April.
Good luck and have fun!
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03-25-2019, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TCstang
Hello everyone,
I am planning a trip to Moab this summer with my father and son. I’m looking on advise for what trails I can safely hit with my current setup. I’m running 5100’s with 2.5 in the front and wheeler 1.5 lift springs in the rear. I also have SPC UCA’s and RSG sliders. I currently have the stock 265 Nitto terra grappler tires. I’m considering going to 275 before the trip. I’ve done off roading few time at the state park in Bridgeport Texas. I’m new to the off road world, came from modifying mustangs the last 10 years so any advise or recommendations is appreciated.
So far from research fin’s n things, hells revenge and the white rim trail all seem like good options for my trip. Also I’ve reserved a hotel room so we won’t be camping.
Let me know your thoughts and any advice for the trip is always appreciated. Also I have a 2028 off road.
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I don't think you should have any problem with those. Climbed Baby Lions Back and did the 'Daylight' section of Fins n Things right after arriving to Moab, both took 2-3 hours, going slow and taking a good look at several of the downhills, had to turn back at the top of Baby Lions back, because of a huge mud pond in the other side, didn't know the terrain under it or the depth, so did not need to risk it. Scrapped the hitch in the downhill shown in several TFL videos where pretty much every truck scrapes, but other than that no real damage, and only had to engage the locker once in an uphill section in the 3rd part of the trail that was quite muddy. Didn't do more because it was getting late.
As others mentioned, if you do Hurrah Pass/Chicken Corners, it is a day long trail, very nice scenery. Hurrah Pass was all 2WD, after the pass we only used 4LO in 2-3 muddy sections, but 4HI was probably enough.
Did a shorter loop of Hell's Revenge; at mile marker ~2, there is an alternate route that takes you directly to mile marker ~4, skipping Hells Gate and the hot tubs, took it to go hiking in the same day. The loop took 5-6 hours. Took the 'alternate route' at ~0.5 miles from the beginning of the trail, it was difficult, at least to me, there were some serious downhills and in one breakover section slightly scrapped the bottom of the silver valence.
I would say Hell's Revenge was the most challenging, but again, going really slow helped avoid any damage. Mind you this was in a stock trail, only upgrade are the tires from my sig. It was only my GF and I, it was her first time spotting and our first time seriously offroading.
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04-01-2019, 02:55 PM
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FWIW, I just returned from Moab. I traveled from Chicago area. I was alone (wife and kids had different spring break). I had the trail guide and only did easy rated trails with the exception of Chicken Corners. My T4R is basically stock with the exception of Falken Wildpeaks and Cornfed lift (doesn't help offroad other than a slight boost in clearance).
The first two days I did: Potash Road to Shafer trail (Liked this one so much did it twice), Gemini Bridges, and Hurrah Pass to Chicken Corners.
I'm not a very experienced 4wheeler nor did I want to break my car so I played it conservative.
The other two days I spent in Canyonlands NP and Arches NP.
Just a beautiful area (understatement). I want to return and try some other trails.
I added 3004 miles to my T4R on this trip. Turned 100,000 on the way home. All in all, the T4R didn't miss a beat. Gas mileage is another story. Haven't been out west since I was a little kid. I can't wait to go back.
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04-11-2019, 08:59 PM
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Utah 3 weeks this summer
Going to be in Utah for 3 weeks this summer. Moab and WRT to start; WRT camp sites booked months ago. First time really crawling on trails that take hours so was a little worried about biting off more then I could chew, getting onto a trail that was out of my league. Have been doing a ton of research and so far, this is the best free online guide I have found. Jeep the USA - Best Jeep trails in the Western U.S. . A retired couple with a lifted Jeep checking out the country in their motorhome and checking out all the off-road trails in their jeep and writing about it. They also have included GPX routing so you can download the trails to your GPS.
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04-14-2019, 12:46 PM
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Moab and the surrounding area is amazing. If you have never been to Canyonlands, Arches, Gobblin, Capitol Reef, Scenic 12, Devils Backbone, etc, then I would suggest driving the pavement to cover as much area as possible - wife and I spent 4 days the last week of March enjoying S. Utah. Once you find an area you want to pursue you can leave the pavement on one of the many dirt roads - and there are plenty of options. We had intentions to 4x4 most of our trip, but decided that covering more area was a better option then seeing tid-bits.
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Quote:
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Speaking of lift, since we are in the offroad section, allow me to offer a bit of critique on yours. No, I am not a suspension expert. But I don't need to be to tell you that once you get beyond 1.5-max 2, you'd better use high quality kits and replace more than just shocks.
You do not technically need any lift or any aftermarket skids for any of the mentioned trails. The issue is that we get distracted, get tired, and so on. Therefore, a small lift or good armor do make a real difference. My armor shows why. But while a lift helps and is more cost effective than armor, it should not tax the suspension and should not come at the expense of dependability. A basic 2.5 lift sounds too much to me. Maybe dial that back to about 1.5 to allow for proper travel and angles. The simple 2.5 lift may ok on road, but offroad it is another story.
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