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Old 08-25-2020, 10:46 PM #1
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Recovery points, bow shackles, and straps

I installed front recovery points on my 2017 4runner SR5.
Before I have to use them I have a few questions about the safest technique.
Each recovery points (2) are rated 7,165 lbs each.

My bow shackles are rated 8,000 lbs.
My first concern is the difference between the thickness of the recovery point and the opening of the shackle.
Particularly when the load is at an angle, best case would be a straight pull using both recovery points.
Would it be safer to flip the shackle upside down?
These recovery points have squared edges that would not be good with soft shackles.
I am prepping some rear recovery points that have rounded edges that I'll use with soft shackles.
So for the front, using the bow shackles. What is my safest option?
Thank you for sharing your experience.

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After many, many, many hours of researching I found my answer.
Thank you to all that contributed.
The answer was "yes".

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Nobody wants to share safety tips. But we'll have lengthy discussions on pretty headlights.

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Nobody wants to share safety tips. But we'll have lengthy discussions on pretty headlights.

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What did you find with the front? More out of curiosity. I would think that the pin should go through the recovery point. But that is just a loose idea.
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It can go either way.
On the fronts I'll have the strap on the pin.

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If the situation allows, use a bridle on those front recovery points with something to slide along the bridle (like a snatch block). Then attach the strap from the recovering vehicle to whatever you have on the bridle. This will evenly distribute the force and makes for a very safe and controlled recovery.

Use your steel shackles or soft shackles on your recovery points, your preference.

I have a 25ft synthetic winch line bridle for this. It was inexpensive ($60ish), super lightweight and easy to store, and has uses beyond recovery.
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My intention is to use a bridle strap to split the force.
My concern, even using a bridle, is single shear vs double shear where the shackles pin contacts the recovery point.
Maybe a bushing to keep the shackle centered, so it doesn't twist to the side. Something like the Factor 55 "spool"

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I don't think the shackle will matter much. The attachment to the frame is the weak point. It's two relatively small weld nuts holding into the wall of the frame tubing that is relatively thin. I'd be mostly worried about the tear out strength of the two attachments to the frame rail. Those will probably give long before the shackle or the recovery hook.

I would not pull sideways at all on the near side one. It will rip the welded front nut out without too much effort (I'm assuming you haven't put any reinforcement inside the frame rail to spread the load out).

Your safest option is probably to use the OEM loops welded to the frame with a soft shackle.
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To be honest, I never thought of or worried about the positioning of the shackles - the shackles do move during recovery, never seen that to be an issue (steel or soft shackles).

Is your concern that a pivoting shackle might deform the recovery point? or rip it out of the frame? Again, the bridle will mitigate this, assuming you follow all other safety/best-practice methods.
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I'll use in this orientation. With a bridle strap. And hopefully never at this angle.
As someone on another forum suggested, this way the recovery point isn't trying to open the shackle.

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With those front hooks, I'd be leary about recovery in anything other than a straight line. I see frame damage as a real possibility. In fact, I'd probably use the OEM one instead. just my .02
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Nice install, sorry I missed the thread earlier.

What brand did you go with?

(Loved the "pretty headlights" comment btw)
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With those front hooks, I'd be leary about recovery in anything other than a straight line. I see frame damage as a real possibility. In fact, I'd probably use the OEM one instead. just my .02
OEM hooks pull from the same point on the frame as these aftermarket ones, and at least the aftermarket ones are bolted to two separate parts of the frame instead of just the radiator support crossmember. And I would guess the recovery point would bend before the frame would.
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Sliders bolt to that same frame with no backing plate

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I don't understand why you "mounted" recovery points other than for a bling factor--which is fine if that's what you're going for. I agree with other replies, use the OEM loops.
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