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Old 03-14-2021, 02:03 PM #1
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Removing braces for skid plates?

I was watching this video last night from Victory 4X4 about their install of the Victory 4X4 skid plates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JLF9z_18SY

I saw that they removed some parts that they called crash bars and another thing they referred to as braces of some sort. They put the skid plates on after removing those parts, but those parts remained off.

Is keeping those parts off really a good thing? They look like they're rather sturdy things that would provide structure for the vehicle, and I'm not sure if the skid plates would be good replacements for those parts. I've got to wonder if skid plates that go on over these parts would be better for the vehicle in the long term.

I'm reminded of these cracks in the wheelwells that I've seen people have. Perhaps there's a correlation between removing these parts and a stretching of the wheelwell to the point of cracking? And if not this, then maybe something else?
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I was watching this video last night from Victory 4X4 about their install of the Victory 4X4 skid plates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JLF9z_18SY

I saw that they removed some parts that they called crash bars and another thing they referred to as braces of some sort. They put the skid plates on after removing those parts, but those parts remained off.

Is keeping those parts off really a good thing? They look like they're rather sturdy things that would provide structure for the vehicle, and I'm not sure if the skid plates would be good replacements for those parts. I've got to wonder if skid plates that go on over these parts would be better for the vehicle in the long term.

I'm reminded of these cracks in the wheelwells that I've seen people have. Perhaps there's a correlation between removing these parts and a stretching of the wheelwell to the point of cracking? And if not this, then maybe something else?
My .02...I have a PRO with the factory Pro skidplate. I chose RCI for my skids specifically because they have an engine skid that integrates with the factory skid. A GX460 obviously does not have this. so...maybe not apples to apples, but close.

That said, those curved "crash Bars" (NOT the ones to the radiator support) were also removed with the RCI units. I was satisfied that the skid itself took on most of the stiffness of the removed bars. I based this on how the skids bolted up to the vehicle; using the factory bolt holes for the removed bars, to secure the skid plate. Very solid.

The PRO skid plate bolts up to the same place on the radiator support as the "s" shaped braces, and to the cross member in back. Is it as strong as those braces...dunno. But the Pro skid is a stout piece of metal, and I'm willing to consider that an "acceptable risk".
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That said, those curved "crash Bars" (NOT the ones to the radiator support) were also removed with the RCI units. I was satisfied that the skid itself took on most of the stiffness of the removed bars. I based this on how the skids bolted up to the vehicle; using the factory bolt holes for the removed bars, to secure the skid plate. Very solid.
Interesting. When I installed my RCI skids just a month ago, the insructions specifically stated to leave those on, which I did. There are spacers that are integrated with the mounts of those curved braces. The spacers act to clear the exhaust.
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I mounted mine the same way as ahtoxa11. I bought the aluminum RCI full skid plate package during last months group buy. Mounted it this month on a 2021 ORP. I could be wrong, but I believe the TRD Pro does not have the “crash bar/curved braces.”
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Few years ago I installed the TRD skid plate and there was no instructions to remove the bars. Like the previous two posters I recently added the RCI front skid and that had no instructions to remove the bars either.
My only thought is why didn’t RCI use the same bolt holes under the radiator that the TRD skid used that also mounts the front of the bars? Would of saved me a lot of time cleaning out the threads of the holes next to them that were caked with mud. The originally used holes are much stronger location with larger bolts.
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I mounted mine the same way as ahtoxa11. I bought the aluminum RCI full skid plate package during last months group buy. Mounted it this month on a 2021 ORP. I could be wrong, but I believe the TRD Pro does not have the “crash bar/curved braces.”
Out of sheer curiosity, what was your order number? I think I got into the order pretty early but I'm still waiting for my full AL set.
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I was watching this video last night from Victory 4X4 about their install of the Victory 4X4 skid plates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JLF9z_18SY

I saw that they removed some parts that they called crash bars and another thing they referred to as braces of some sort. They put the skid plates on after removing those parts, but those parts remained off.

Is keeping those parts off really a good thing? They look like they're rather sturdy things that would provide structure for the vehicle, and I'm not sure if the skid plates would be good replacements for those parts. I've got to wonder if skid plates that go on over these parts would be better for the vehicle in the long term.

I'm reminded of these cracks in the wheelwells that I've seen people have. Perhaps there's a correlation between removing these parts and a stretching of the wheelwell to the point of cracking? And if not this, then maybe something else?
I would not risk making such modifications. After all, the car is being designed, then it undergoes porridge tests. If strength plates are provided in it, then removing them is equal to suicide.
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