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Let's Get Some Facts Straight About Apple CarPlay And Android Auto

My Stereo Won't Work If I Don't Use An iPhone/Android

  • Nope. If you're still rocking a Nokia 3310, you can jam out to Barry Manilow while playing Snake. The stereo functionality – AM, FM, satellite radio, CD, whatever – will work no matter what phone you have. If, however, you've got a compatible stereo and an iPhone or Android device running the latest operating system, you can take advantage of Apple CarPlay or Android Auto.
I Shouldn't Have To Pick My Car Based On My Phone

  • You won't. The vast majority of the automakers offering (or planning to offer) these systems are going with both Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. There are exceptions (BMW comes to mind), but looking over the lists of automakers partnering with Apple and Google, there's a ton of overlap.

  • Because of this, the chances of your resale value being affected are slim, as is the possibility of all the songs you bought through either iTunes or Google Play becoming useless when you choose a car.
  • Your OS will not and should not dictate your new car purchase.
I'll Be Locked Into One Mobile Operating System Forever

  • No. See above.
How Will They Update These Things?

  • That's the beauty of both systems. Since all they do is run atop the existing infotainment platform, whatever updates or features Google or Apple want to implement in the future are downloaded through system updates. You won't need to upgrade your head unit because the software runs primarily on your phone, not your car's system.
Just Let Me Plug In My Phone And Mirror My Damn Screen

  • Not gonna happen. Automakers have been working tirelessly to keep the feds from mandating what can and can't be used or displayed on screens. By making it a free-for-all where your phone's display is mirrored onto your dash, automakers would open themselves up to liability and oversight. The design, layout, and functionality of your phone is just that: for your phone. Porting it over to your dash isn't a good idea. The touch points are too small, the functions are too broad, and the possibility of distraction is far too high. [insert pron joke or Clash of Clans reference here]. That's why Android Auto and CarPlay are better alternatives.

  • Both offer stripped-down interfaces that rely on large, simple text and graphics, along with basic, familiar functionality. If you use an iPhone, the learning curve for CarPlay isn't steep. There are icons. You press them. Same with Android Auto. It looks and works similarly to what you use on your phone, but without all the bells and whistles and potentials for distraction.
Gimme An Auxiliary Input Or Give Me Death

  • Fine. Most cars have either an 1/8-inch aux input or Bluetooth and will continue to. But understand there's a good chance they could go away or be limited in the future. Automakers (and their lawyers) don't want you fiddling with your phone any more than the head of NHTSA or the guy you just rear-ended. The driver distraction issues cited above could spell the end of the lowly, functional auxiliary input, and while Bluetooth (and soon, WiFi) will continue to be an option, automakers are trying to get you to connect your phone and then throw it in a cubby, out of sight. That could mean implementing a way to lock out the screen while the car is in motion. Don't be surprised when it happens.
Why Can't We Go Back To A Double-DIN?

  • Have you seen car interiors recently? Automakers are putting style and branding above all else. Yes, that might suck for your stereo upgrade choices (and the aftermarket), but it's the way the industry is going and massive rectangles aren't coming back in fashion anytime soon.
I Don't Want Any Of This Shit In My Car! Burn It All Down!

  • Buy an older car and stop *****ing. At least it can still play your eight-tracks.
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Meh, call me when I can integrate a stand alone HAM interface through the head unit; otherwise its more flashy carp to me...
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LONG BEACH, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc.’s second generation Networked Entertainment eXperience (NEX) in-dash multimedia receivers introduced at the 2015 Consumer Electronics Show are now available at authorized Pioneer retailers across the country. The 2015 NEX line includes the AVIC-8100NEX, AVIC-7100NEX and AVH-4100NEX, the first products to offer consumers both Android™ Auto and Apple CarPlay™ connectivity to provide maximum smartphone connectivity flexibility. Two additional models, the AVIC-6100NEX and AVIC-5100NEX, offer only Apple CarPlay compatibility. The NEX line of products also feature advanced Bluetooth®1 capabilities, AppRadio® Mode, MirrorLink® compatibility, iDatalink® Maestro™ support and enhanced audio/video capabilities including Pandora® internet radio, SiriusXM-Ready™, and FLAC file playback.

Key connectivity features of the NEX line:

• Android Auto (AVIC-8100NEX, AVIC-7100NEX, and AVH-4100NEX)
Three of the five NEX models feature Android Auto integration, allowing consumers to quickly connect their compatible smartphones to extend the Android platform into the car in a way that’s purpose-built for driving. Designed with safety in mind, Android Auto utilizes a simple and intuitive interface to provide navigation, communications, music and more, combined with powerful new voice actions for minimized distraction, so users stay focused on the road. Smartphones running Android 5.0 (Lollipop) or newer operating system offer Android Auto and will work with the three Pioneer models. The first time a user connects a compatible smartphone to the receiver, the user will be prompted to download applications required for Android Auto. For more information about Android Auto functionality on Pioneer’s three NEX models, visit www.pioneer-carglobal.com/AndroidAuto.

• Apple CarPlay (all models)
Pioneer’s Apple CarPlay-compatible NEX in-dash receivers offer consumers the ability to upgrade the vehicles they already own to the smarter, safer and more fun way to use iPhone® in the car. Consumers with the latest version of iOS on their iPhone 5 or newer, including iPhone 6 Plus and iPhone 6, can use Siri® voice control to make and receive calls, compose and respond to text messages, access Apple Maps for navigation, and listen to their music, podcasts, or iTunes Radio.

• AppRadio Mode (all models)
Pioneer’s AppRadio Mode provides both iPhone and Android users the ability to access and control dozens of popular in-vehicle apps directly from the receiver’s large touchscreen display when connected to an iPhone 5 or newer, including iPhone 6 Plus and iPhone 6, or compatible Android smartphone using the corresponding interface cable2 (sold separately).

The Pioneer AVIC-8100NEX ($1,400 SRP), AVIC-7100NEX ($1,200 SRP), AVIC-6100NEX ($900 SRP), AVIC-5100NEX ($750 SRP) and AVH-4100NEX ($700 SRP) are currently available at authorized Pioneer retailers across the U.S.
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CarPlay seems to have issues with backwards compatibility. When I updated my iphone 5C to the latest iOS (which includes CarPlay) it no longer works properly with my Alpine headunit. In order to select songs etc. I have to use the actual phone instead of the headunit's display. I have similar issues with OEM headunits when connecting via USB. Bluetooth audio streaming works fine but the only available controls are skip tracks backwards and forwards.

Though at work this past month we received vehicles with prototype OEM CarPlay and Android Auto equipped audio systems (probably won't see these systems in production vehicles until late 2015 as 2016 model year models). Here's my preliminary CarPlay review...
  • Phone doesn't use bluetooth when connected to CarPlay, but does use the audio system's speakers and bluetooth microphone. Audio quality didn't seem any better or worse than a standard bluetooth connection.
  • Music menus were easy to access. No problems searching songs and podcasts.
  • Messaging (compose,send,receive,respond) is all done via Siri voice control, it does not display any text on screen nor is there a feature to type on-screen; which I'm ok with,would be too distracting IMO. Although Apple should allow more time for Siri to "listen" while composing a message, speak too slowly and you get cut off, speak too quickly and it misunderstands what you're saying.
  • Standard iphone maps app worked fine.
  • I have the iheartradio app, it appeared on the screen but haven't tested it.
  • Non musical apps like instagram for were not displayed.
Non-apple or android phones and media players/storage still work with the audio system. It still has a 1/8" aux input and recognizes standard USB audio sources. It still has AM/FM/XM radio, CD player and standard bluetooth phone and audio streaming. No 8-track or cassette though
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In my current car, i just plug my iPhone to USB and use "Hey Siri" to do any texting that i need while driving...still have BT connection for phone calls and i see my music on my display via USB.

CarPlay will be nice...but i can do most of it RIGHT NOW.
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In my current car, i just plug my iPhone to USB and use "Hey Siri" to do any texting that i need while driving...still have BT connection for phone calls and i see my music on my display via USB.

CarPlay will be nice...but i can do most of it RIGHT NOW.
Your MDX?

Sat in one at a car show not too long ago. I was blown away. IMO, best lux SUV out there.
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Your MDX?

Sat in one at a car show not too long ago. I was blown away. IMO, best lux SUV out there.
Yes. I love it. Great all-arounder. No longer a fuel hog like prior gen.
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Sat in one at a car show not too long ago. I was blown away. IMO, best lux SUV out there.
You must have not had the chance to sit in the RDX then which is the MDX upgrade in lux,speed and handling.
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You must have not had the chance to sit in the RDX then which is the MDX upgrade in lux,speed and handling.
I don't remember there being an RDX at the car show, but from what I understand, the RDX is smaller than the MDX. I typically like the "mid-size" SUV as opposed to the smaller ones. I'm sure it's a sweet ride.
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