Having seen a 3.5 Ecoboost engine torn down, I'd never buy one just for the fact that the drive chain is wrapped around the water pump. If the latter ever suddenly fails, time for a new engine.
Some owners I know have them and love em, others have had problems galore from almost day one.
If one thinks back to both the Pinto fiasco and the Explorer/Firestone debacle, I don't see how this marketing scheme is surprising on Ford's part.
That and it's a long timing chain that likes to stretch. I've already seen a couple stretch way more than the tensioner can adjust for. When that happens, the chain bunches and makes a window on the right side of the block.
EcoBooze is a way to get good fuel economy out of large trucks and SUVs that are only used to haul passengers and groceries.
I guess there's a market for that... or Ford knows that the majority of their customers aren't using their trucks and SUVs for anything more.
I hate the added complexity of turbos and am unsure if they REALLY are compatible with the swill that passes for gas in the Midwest--so I don't know what their longevity will be.
My preference is displacement and peak hp and torque below 2000 RPM but Obama wants to take that away from me.
Essentially, what Ford has done here is they have taken a fairly common engine technology, they have given it a catchy name, and they have convinced people that you can only get it if you purchase a Ford product. This would be like Oakley saying their sunglasses now come with SuperVisionShield, which is really just lenses.
And here’s the kicker: people are actually believing Ford’s marketing. There are actually people out there, walking around, insisting that their friends try out this great new thing called EcoBoost. In other words: this isn’t just a marketing scheme. This is a brilliant marketing scheme.
My understanding was that the turbos are made by the same company that makes BMW and Audi's turbos.
I always assumed EcoBoost was a marketing term, no more than Synergy Drive.
Aside from the fact that some people may assume EcoBoost line of cars is a lot more unique than they really are, I don't see whats wrong with the technology.
In fact a 6 speed, Ecoboost 2016 Mustang is looking pretty good right now. I am quite skeptical though on whether or not it will need major work after 100K miles.
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Ford knows that the majority of their customers aren't using their trucks and SUVs for anything more.
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The video is interesting but I wouldn't do any of that to any car I own. They don't mention the wear on the body of the truck and what condition the axle, differential, Transfercase or tranny were in.
I worked for Ford, and can tell you how horrible of a marketing scheme it is and how many upset customers there have been because of the perceived expectations as promised by all of the marketing.
It's also for this reason I always drove a Toyota or Subaru. Keep It Stupid Simple, and the ECOand/orBOOST is neither of those.
In regards to the individual stating 19mpgs at 14k foot elevations and at 95mph. . .not even the biggest Ford fan boys would believe that.
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I worked for Ford, and can tell you how horrible of a marketing scheme it is and how many upset customers there have been because of the perceived expectations as promised by all of the marketing.
It's also for this reason I always drove a Toyota or Subaru. Keep It Stupid Simple, and the ECOand/orBOOST is neither of those.
In regards to the individual stating 19mpgs at 14k foot elevations and at 95mph. . .not even the biggest Ford fan boys would believe that.
I said it averaged that over the 6000 mile trip if you go back and read what I wrote. It was getting between 12-14 depending on the grade at 14k. When I had the cruise control set at 110 going through Utah if still managed 15mpg.
I said it averaged that over the 6000 mile trip if you go back and read what I wrote. It was getting between 12-14 depending on the grade at 14k. When I had the cruise control set at 110 going through Utah if still managed 15mpg.
Hmmmm, Ford must've set the governer a little higher in the 15's. My 2012 and my buddy's 2014 F150 hits the governer at 100, stock. My EB was lucky to get 15 if I set the cruise at 80.
I don't know, maybe you're exaggerating just a tiny bit.
Hmmmm, Ford must've set the governer a little higher in the 15's. My 2012 and my buddy's 2014 F150 hits the governer at 100, stock. My EB was lucky to get 15 if I set the cruise at 80.
I don't know, maybe you're exaggerating just a tiny bit.
On what part? I didn't save receipts so I'm only going off what the display told me. I reset everything when I pulled out of the driveway and looked at it again when we pulled back in it.
The governor on the 15 is set to 110, the speedometer is spot on when I did 6 runs at Bonneville.
Also bare in mind the 15s screws are 750lbs lighter than the 14's. Obviously it's not possible to maintain 95 the entirety of the trip. We dealt with traffic and cities where that speed simply wasn't possible. From 20miles outside SLC till pretty much the Nevada border the cruise was set to 110. Once we entered Nevada we varied between 90-95 based on traffic. I'd say we spent around 4000 miles of the trip at around 95.
Coming back was much more difficult than going as we took i70 through Colorado. The grades hit the fuel milage pretty hard and we were only able to maintain an average of 80, but eastern Colorado, the entirety of Kansas and Missouri and southern Illinois brought the fuel back in line.
Like I said, you'll have to take my word for it, but when I pulled in the driveway the computer said 18.9mpg
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