Originally Posted by jbtvt

I'm a millennial making 6 figures with no college but I'm on the roof whether it's 20 degrees with 40mph winds or 120 degrees with no wind. Younger generations choose degrees and office jobs in part because they don't have the tolerance for physical discomfort, because they're outside less and staring at screens more every year. Both by choice and because parents are keeping them inside out of safety concerns. Many friends with children won't even let them out in the yard on a dead-end street alone, it's not the child's fault that they'll carry this mindset with them into adulthood, just the way I carry mine with me, which involved running around town miles from home for the entire day before I was 10 years old.

It's not just college though, I see it on jobsites too. When I first started I was doing commercial construction for a couple years before I even knew the harness I was wearing had to be attached to a rope to be legal, now you can't get on some jobsites without 40 hours of safety training, a ream of paperwork, and a safety meeting every morning. Are people safer because of it? Of course. As a society we prioritize safety more every year, and we get fewer injuries of some types because of it. Of course, we also have record fentanyl deaths every year now too, so there's a case to be made that wrapping people in bubble wrap is simply trading one type of injury for another.

It's funny, I was lifting and listening to this podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB4lGwxysEk when I read this email between sets, and it wasn't minutes later when Nate Hagens, who's a left-leaning environmental activist was telling his own stories reinforcing the theme of this thread, then Haidt pulled out his NYU ID. I swear I don't have an ax to grind with them but apparently they're on the cutting edge of all this stuff. There is now a "Bias Response Hotline on the back of every NYU student ID apparently. Did they have this when you went there? And of course, that entire office doesn't work for free and is just one of many reasons why the number of college admin employees has roughly tripled in size relative to student population, and this in turn is why many are now spending $100k for that degree which ended up not reflecting its actual value. All this stuff is connected.

Originally Posted by BrianSD_42

T4R2014 I definitely agree with you about 95% here.

Originally Posted by T4R2014

Hopefully you didn't perceive my previous post as an attack aimed at you. It was more general. I've come across plenty of boomer age grandparents wondering why their unemployed grandkids can't just "get a job" because they think it's the 1961 post WW2 economy and all you have to do is march into the office of the manager, slam your fist on his desk and say "I'm your man!". Yes it's exaggerated but a lot of these people haven't dealt with online job application asshattery and 100 phone calls per day from useless recruiters asking for you SSN.