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Old 05-25-2021, 11:15 PM #16
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NON smoker of parents who smoked my entire life
so at the ripe young age of 50, i am already the son of two deceased parents:

here to scare you...

My father died in 2014 of congestive heart failure. in the autopsy, the report noted his lungs were blackened from his 35+ years of smoking. That caused his heart to work at approx 35% of normal capacity. he was 64

My mother died in 2019 of an aortic embolism which ruptured shortly after she had had an operation to try and maintain it. In speaking to the surgeons who worked on her, "what causes this?"
only one thing -- smoking. she was 74

if you can stop...stop. lung cancer isnt the only thing that smoking can kill you with.

Bummer. Sounds really shitty sorry to hear that. I know this is me being young and dumb but sometimes it isn’t that either. Your mom making it to 74 ain’t bad. My grandma died a couple years back at 82... never smoked a day in her life and quit drinking 35 years before she died. She also catalogued every (EVERY!) (E-V-E-R-Y) calorie and gram of fat she ate every day for 45 years. What’s sad to me is all my grandmas hard work and lack of having fun only got her 8 more years than your mom.

I think most of death is poor life choices. But some is also luck of the draw.

Edit: I sounded insensitive when I said “only 8 more years”. That’s a long time to be able to spend time with a loved one. What I meant was grand scheme of things it’s a small chunk. Wanted to clarify
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Bummer. Sounds really shitty sorry to hear that. I know this is me being young and dumb but sometimes it isn’t that either. Your mom making it to 74 ain’t bad. My grandma died a couple years back at 82... never smoked a day in her life and quit drinking 35 years before she died. She also catalogued every (EVERY!) (E-V-E-R-Y) calorie and gram of fat she ate every day for 45 years. What’s sad to me is all my grandmas hard work and lack of having fun only got her 8 more years than your mom.

I think most of death is poor life choices. But some is also luck of the draw.

Edit: I sounded insensitive when I said “only 8 more years”. That’s a long time to be able to spend time with a loved one. What I meant was grand scheme of things it’s a small chunk. Wanted to clarify
Not insensitive at all. I get what you are saying. To put a finer point on it, in March i helped burry my mother's mother (Grandma)...she was 96 and the only bad habit she had was working too much and vanilla ice cream. My fathers dad lived until he was 90 and had similar bad habits-sweets and working to exhaustion. So for me and my own kids, it would have been nice have had at least one of them to live a little longer so that my kids could enjoy them into their own adulthood the way i was with my own grandparents.

Smoking is excessively difficult to stop doing, on purpose...and i know that from personal experience. I am just on this thread to add 2 cents or more to the argument...if you can stop, im sure there are people who love you who would love, on the back end, to have seen you live an additional 8+ years having stopped.

And in the example that you gave, imagine your own relative having an additional 2-5 more years if she hadnt had the bad habits of his/her own...im just saying.
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Bummer. Sounds really shitty sorry to hear that. I know this is me being young and dumb but sometimes it isn’t that either. Your mom making it to 74 ain’t bad. My grandma died a couple years back at 82... never smoked a day in her life and quit drinking 35 years before she died. She also catalogued every (EVERY!) (E-V-E-R-Y) calorie and gram of fat she ate every day for 45 years. What’s sad to me is all my grandmas hard work and lack of having fun only got her 8 more years than your mom.

I think most of death is poor life choices. But some is also luck of the draw.

Edit: I sounded insensitive when I said “only 8 more years”. That’s a long time to be able to spend time with a loved one. What I meant was grand scheme of things it’s a small chunk. Wanted to clarify
I cannot speak for mnofpeace. Just posting based on what he wrote.

Remember that his parents did not die suddenly from the illnesses. Smoking caused his father heart failure over the years and he may have had COPD…and all that led to decline over the years. In the years leading to his death, he may not have had the best of life. (BIG assumption by me. Sorry if i am wrong.)

His mother did not suddenly develop aortic aneurysm over night. That came directly from smoking. So, she suffered from the aneurysm over years and they tried to fix it in the end…unsuccessfully it seems.

YOUR grandma died at 82 from natural cause? If so, then she lived a good life…and if she did die early, then that is probably genetics…you can’t escape genetics. But i assume that she lived a good life up to 82. Can you say the same about mnofpeace parents??
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I've always been curious as to the difference between your standard cigarette (Marlboro, Camel etc etc) and rolling tobacco. I would assume all of the additives have an additional effect.
If you switch from any main brand to something else, you will have some withdrawals because there are lots of chemicals you are addicted to that are unique... this is sort of part of their tactic to keep you addicted to their brand.

Rolling tobacco is harsher normally and most of it is pretty low grade so this doesn't help. Plus, most people don't roll a filter into their cigarettes so it's a non-filter.

Rolling your own is mostly for hitchhikers, regular hikers, and commoners. Not for the nobles like me and you.
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