After your input and since adobe seems to rate well I really started to look at their system. In fact it would be perfect to secure my current rental with has forced air heating. however I wanted to ask your experience on the particular sensors.
On the spec sheet, it is recommended that the motion sensors not be aimed at heater and air conditioner but my new place has radiators and mini splits.... Do you know if they would work in this instance? I can't really aim it for coverage without it crossing the path of some sort of HVAC. And the range of 40 feet seems impressive but then there is like a 6 foot blind spot right below the sensor at 6.5 ft mount height.... I don't have pets so I can potentially mount lower... Don't know if all PIR sensors have these kind of issues with HVAC or are they generally smart enough??? I was really hoping the to blanket the area with motion sensors vs glass sensors because I have a ton of essentially double hung/slide windows so I would need 2 sensors for each window....

The other thing is I was reading up on the acoustic glass break sensors but then it has all these do not use in conjunction with window treatments etc.... False alarms from music etc. How much are blinds going to affect these? How about false triggers?

Vibration sensors/ window sensors would make this impractical for me....

I guess the real question is what recording resolution is diagnostic? And I am sort of losing you on the gigabyte POE but essentially you need 1 per between the camera and the security hub and 1 total from security hub to internet router??

TK422 is referencing an advanced setup. On some camera systems, it's possible to run a single ethernet cable to a remote area. Remote area could be a separate building or just a long cable run to the other side of the house. Running a singular Ethernet cable is also easier. At the other end the user would install a Powered over Ethernet (POE) switch. Then control the cameras over the POE switch. The POE could have a direct connection to the security NVR or connect over the internet. POE switch helps/eliminates the footage problem of long cable runs.

I'm recording in 2K on my 2K system with 11cameras. Not close to maxing out the internal bandwidth of the system. TK422 referenced the systems max bandwidth. This is the internal bandwidth of the security system talking to the cameras. Does not reflect internet access. The cameras are little computers that also talk with the NVR. I have about a 1.5second delay between the camera view and what I see on the monitor. My old analog system was instant. The old analog system was low resolution. I have about a 2 second lag between camera view and my cellphone remote access.

The security systems have made a lot of changes in the last 10 years. Earlier models of NVRs only came with 4 or 6 ports so if you had more cameras than that you had to have a switch and a power insert for each camera or a POE switch.

I don't know if this has changed but if you plugged the camera directly into the NVR it took control of your camera. That includes IP addresses. Depending on your network you might want static IP addresses. At least with my current system if you want to login to the camera directly you had to have it on a POE switch. I will see how the new one is when I get it.

My current NVR has a recording capacity of 32 MBPS. The new one will have 10x that at 320 MBPS. The more cameras you add and the higher the MP the higher the recording capacity will be needed.

Many of the cheap NVRs you can buy online don't have the capacity to record all of the cameras they come with at the highest settings. As an example you get a great looking 12 3MP camera system but the NVR can only handle 80 MBPS. If you only connect 4 cameras you can record at 1080P /30fps but if you add more cameras you have to drop the resolution to 720p.

This link can explain it more.

I got the 4K system in. The cameras are so clear. At least the one I have hooked up so far in the office.

The good news is the 4K cameras come with a waterproof CAT5 connector.

The bad news is I will have to run all new lines through the attic. each camera comes with 100' of cable with the connector.

The good news is that will give me a chance to do cleaner cable runs.

I picked up 70' of plastic rain gutters to make cable trays in the attic and in the garage.

Saturday Update.

I moved the 4K NVR to it's permanent location and connected the 7 1080P cameras up to it thru the 16 port POE switch. It worked as it should.

Then I installed the cable track in the garage and part of the attic.

Next I installed the first 4K camera, ran the cable thru the garage and attic and to the POE switch. I was able to change a few settings such as color 24/7 since there are lights there at night and change the default passwords so it can't get hacked as easy. I also set a static IP.

I noticed that camera would blackout for half a second every few minutes. It looks like as I expected it was overwhelming the 10/100 POE switch. I set the IP back to dynamic then moved the cable directly into the NVR.

That solved the blackout issue but I tried to connect directly to the camera with the new IP and it's a NO. I couldn't even ping it from the network. I guess even new NVRs built in switches don't allow direct access to the cameras.

So for this setup it's good to have a POE switch to configure the camera but then plug it directly into the NVR other than that. You could also get a power inserter for cheaper and plug it into your network to configure it before plugin it to your NVR or later if you need to change any settings.

You will not have the problem of overwhelming a 10/100 POE switch with 1080p or less cameras. It is a problem I created with upgrading to 4K.

Is it possible for you to dial down the resolution on a few cameras to 1080p to help with the transport bottleneck?

That was with only 1 4K camera and 7 1080p cameras. I could have dialed it down to 1080p and it probably would have been fine but it defeats having 4K cameras.

The other solution would to get a 16 port Gigabit POE switch. Most are 10/100 with gigabit output. By the time you get 16 full gigabit ports with POE it's quite costly.

This will work fine. It's not that often you really need to make any changes to the cameras themselves. If I need to make a change the POE switch will be right there.

Ring + Costco.

The Ring is excellent for anyone who approaches the front door or gets close enough, but it's fairly useless if they try to stay away from the front door, especially at night.

But the best Home Security device is a gun and lighting. No sane person will want to continue trying to break down your door/gate, as soon as they hear a gun get racked. Also, lights. Sounds dumb, but criminals *apparently* are scared of lights.

I use Yi Home from amazon - 4 cameras were like $140. we use them instead of baby monitors for convenience and like them. All wifi based and can be viewed from anywhere

I've read about this. Makes no sense. My cameras can see better at night if my house lights are off. My house lights cause blind spots in the cameras. External lighting from neighbors and street lights do help my cameras.

I guess the idea behind it is that criminals prefer being "invisible" and not being easily seen with a light pointing at them. So houses that are dark/neighborhoods that are dark might be suspect to intruders... And a house with no light might just suggest that no one is at home...

It's not dumb. They do avoid lighted houses. I installed a pair of 18W LED lights on either side of my garage door to not only light up all my vehicles for that reason but to also enable my cameras to stay full color 24/7.

the lights are hard wired but have photo sensors so only come on at night. I have another pair in the back yard since they are bright and use very little electricity. The back yard ones are switched so I can shut them off. They look similar to this.

I am in the middle of upgrading so the pictures are out of order but you can see the color images at night for the vehicle cameras.

Well this is interesting, I happen to be in the market for a home security system. I have read through this and I may be a little off topic, I am looking for a professionally installed system that is monitored by a central station that can send word to fire or police. Additionally I would like a driveway and or doorbell video monitor. the two I have narrowed my search to are Honeywell or Vivint. Does anyone have any experience with either of these two providers? Any other systems/providers I should consider?