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Old 01-15-2019, 01:47 PM #31
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The Supra launch edition is within a few hundred dollars of the corvette stingray with less hp/ torque than it’s bmw counterpart. Hmmm.
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The twin scroll turbo in the bmw is really nice, makes full torque around 1200 rpm.

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The Supra launch edition is within a few hundred dollars of the corvette stingray with less hp/ torque than it’s bmw counterpart. Hmmm.
And that's the point! Go big or go home. Come out big to impress and build excitement...like the Dodge Hellcat, Ford Raptor...even the WRX when it first came out way back when.

Just like the Acura NSX...great car...but just didn't generate the buzz or excitement that it should have...sales are suffering.
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More hp please. What about price? $100 per hp is approx. going rate now days. 2020 Toyota Supra*2020 Toyota Supra


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Looks like Miata's brother or sister on roids. FWD kicks it to the curb for me.
Design looks as for the masses not the enthusiast that remembers the last gen.
HP to weight ratio - ok, 9#'s/hp or less better, didn't see front to rear weight distibution- two things that make a sportscar to me.
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looks like miata's brother or sister on roids. Fwd kicks it to the curb for me.
Design looks as for the masses not the enthusiast that remembers the last gen.
Hp to weight ratio - ok, 9#'s/hp or less better, didn't see front to rear weight distibution- two things that make a sportscar to me.
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Supra isn’t. Maybe you’re referring to Miata?
Maybe he was referring to civic?
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I think they'll be happy to miss that target. 2018 sales for the GT-R = 538 (2017 = 578). You hardly see one on the road. Base price is somewhere around $110k. Great car or not, I think only small exotic-car companies would label 538 units as a good year. Like most automakers, Toyota isn't in the business just to prove they can impress - they're where they are because they sell vehicles. From what I've seen, the Supra will be in the $50k - $60k range (unless demand changes that). More folks can afford that, so if the Supra has wide appeal, it should sell.

When Supra sales dropped off to around 1200 annually in the late 90s (more than the past 2 years combined for the GT-R), they turned it off.
Halo cars are never about the numbers. The legendary Supra was a halo car
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Maybe he was referring to civic?
He had mentioned Miata. That’s why I said that. Maybe he said Civic earlier and I missed it?
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Their decisions to make.
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