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Composite decking or simple deck from the wood?

Trying to figure out what is better to use while making my outside deck, some people are saying that they made a deck from the wood, and it is nice, but it is hard to clean and they chose composite decking and vice versa. My wife wants composite decking, but I want to be sure what is better.
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As much as I like real wood I would probably buy composite deck if I had to build one for myself with the intention of keeping it long term.

As beautiful as real wood is, itís much higher maintenance and doesnít seem to hold up as well over time if you donít spend the money to maintain it. With wood you have to consider termites, sealant/weatherproofing, warpingÖ less you maintain, the faster is weathers and degrades over time.

Lot less to worry about with a composite deck, but it usually cost more upfront too.
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If you don't want to refinish and seal every two years at the minimum' go with trex or other composite.
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+1 for trex. Dont need to maintain it aside from washing it. The biggest downside is it can get pretty hot in direct sunlight. Just wear sandals vs going barefoot on hot sunny days.

Also the t channel mounting system makes for a really clean install

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I designed, sold and built decks in one capacity or another in Colorado (tough climate) for about a decade.

Do this:

1) Wrap the top of the joists in Grace Vycor tape. This tape is non water permeable and will keep moisture from getting into the top of the joists and rotting them over time. It self seals around screws.

2) Use a 1" steel stand off spacer at all the post bases in between the posts and caissons. This will inhibit moisture sitting on tp of casinos from getting into the bottom of the posts and rotting them from bottom up.

3) Use SDS screws in lieu of nails at all of the hangers and every attachment point possible; some areas you must use nails, but use SDS screws wherever you can.

4) Opt for the slightly more expensive kiln dried and pressure treated lumber- lumber yards have rediculously moist wood. Kiln drying slowly releases the excess moisture and gets the moisture content acceptable.

5) IF using wood- Use a high grade finish stain on your cedar top planks. Do not stain or paint the underside. Benjamin Moore Arborcoat is a good medium/high quality stain. Sikkens stains are the best, but a premium price.

Be prepared to clean and stain with HIgH quality stain every 2 years for maximum life cycle.

6). Use 6" Posts in lieu of 4".

7) Whatever substrate you're installing the ledger board to (Unless it's a free float deck and you have a brick home- which shouldn't be ledgered 99% of the time unless you have an unfinished basement and access to framing/structure to ledger beneath brick) make sure that it is properly flashed up under the siding, out over/on top of the joists and counter flashed on top and bottom to prevent water intrusion.

8) Use a minimum of 5 stringers on stairs, unless it is 3 stairs or less; then 3-4 stringers is sufficient.

9) Simpson brackets and strong ties/hurricane clips.
Iíd recommend using timber tech composite over trex , their top tier pro collection.

10) check your souls. Use caissons to local code or go with helical piers if you have expansive souls or fresh backfill/ compacted soils in a development less than 7 years old.

And Iíd recommend using composite over wood for sure. Just donít use cheap composite.

Use a pre fabricated fortress iron railing. The composite railings leave a lot to be desired.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

Have fun!
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There are so many advantages to choose composite decking. Composite decking is usually made of wood fibres and plastic materials. Its high quality, no-finishing-work necessity and non-slipperiness make it a great alternative to the classical timber boards. Composite decking is eco-friendly as it is made of recycled wood and plastic. And on top of that it cleans so easy. I used qualitative dino composite decking when I made reparations in our house. I am very satisfied by the quality and the price.

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There are so many advantages to choose composite decking. Composite decking is usually made of wood fibres and plastic materials. Its high quality, no-finishing-work necessity and non-slipperiness make it a great alternative to the classical timber boards. Composite decking is eco-friendly as it is made of recycled wood and plastic. And on top of that it cleans so easy. I used qualitative dino composite decking when I made reparations in our house. I am very satisfied by the quality and the price.
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As much as I like real wood I would probably buy composite deck if I had to build one for myself with the intention of keeping it long term.

As beautiful as real wood is, itís much higher maintenance and doesnít seem to hold up as well over time if you donít spend the money to maintain it. With wood you have to consider termites, sealant/weatherproofing, warpingÖ less you maintain, the faster is weathers and degrades over time.

Lot less to worry about with a composite deck, but it usually cost more upfront too.
I choose composite decking, but my wife said no sex for 2 weeks. She wanted wood decking. If you know what I mean.
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I designed, sold and built decks in one capacity or another in Colorado (tough climate) for about a decade.

Do this:

1) Wrap the top of the joists in Grace Vycor tape. This tape is non water permeable and will keep moisture from getting into the top of the joists and rotting them over time. It self seals around screws.

2) Use a 1" steel stand off spacer at all the post bases in between the posts and caissons. This will inhibit moisture sitting on tp of casinos from getting into the bottom of the posts and rotting them from bottom up.

3) Use SDS screws in lieu of nails at all of the hangers and every attachment point possible; some areas you must use nails, but use SDS screws wherever you can.

4) Opt for the slightly more expensive kiln dried and pressure treated lumber- lumber yards have rediculously moist wood. Kiln drying slowly releases the excess moisture and gets the moisture content acceptable.

5) IF using wood- Use a high grade finish stain on your cedar top planks. Do not stain or paint the underside. Benjamin Moore Arborcoat is a good medium/high quality stain. Sikkens stains are the best, but a premium price.

Be prepared to clean and stain with HIgH quality stain every 2 years for maximum life cycle.

6). Use 6" Posts in lieu of 4".

7) Whatever substrate you're installing the ledger board to (Unless it's a free float deck and you have a brick home- which shouldn't be ledgered 99% of the time unless you have an unfinished basement and access to framing/structure to ledger beneath brick) make sure that it is properly flashed up under the siding, out over/on top of the joists and counter flashed on top and bottom to prevent water intrusion.

8) Use a minimum of 5 stringers on stairs, unless it is 3 stairs or less; then 3-4 stringers is sufficient.

9) Simpson brackets and strong ties/hurricane clips.
I’d recommend using timber tech composite over trex , their top tier pro collection.

10) check your souls. Use caissons to local code or go with helical piers if you have expansive souls or fresh backfill/ compacted soils in a development less than 7 years old.

And I’d recommend using composite over wood for sure. Just don’t use cheap composite.

Use a pre fabricated fortress iron railing. The composite railings leave a lot to be desired.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

Have fun!
This is solid advice. I did all this stuff after going down an OCD rabbit hole of deck construction and IRC code research when I built mine. I have a patio now which I much prefer.

You should give the IRC Deck Guide a skim read at the least. https://awc.org/pdf/codes-standards/...Guide-1804.pdf

The deck boards should be the least thought about thing. Make sure you have proper footings, post bases, 6x6 posts, proper notched post connections, proper fasteners (Simpson SDS mentioned above). Try to avoid that bright green cheap lumber and get the micronized treated stuff that's less corrosive. I treated end cuts with Black Flag wood preserver for good measure, and used Vycor on the top of double joists as described above. I'll tell you one thing, flash the hell out of the ledger board. I did Grace Vycor > ledger board (attached with Ledgerloks) > more Vycor over the ledger > solid Z flashing > Vycor lapped over that > housewrap lapped over the Vycor.
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We used Azek pvc decking and trim when we built our house, love it no staining and holds up well, put ketchup mustard and crisco on a sample piece for two weeks and it washed right off with no signs of stains. I know of two other decks in our area made of it and they also love it. we wash it with simple green and a pressure washer once a year and done. Have more time to play with toys and drink some beer while sitting on the porch

PS the trim boards we painted with Sherwin williams paint and it is holding up just fine 5 yrs. later.
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