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I've been in hospitals during this.
Both were empty on all occasions.

When you get it with certain underlying conditions, they want to run a lot of tests. MRI / CT scan.

And I guess you missed the part about COPD from 9/11...
Masks make it really tough to not get dizzy/lightheaded.
I don't think you want me driving next to you or your family with a mask on.
OK, you are in the category where mask wearing is a problem. I guess you missed where I said you don’t need to wear a mask everywhere, just when around people. But with COPD, if you get covid what could be your prognosis?
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OK, you are in the category where mask wearing is a problem. I guess you missed where I said you don’t need to wear a mask everywhere, just when around people. But with COPD, if you get covid what could be your prognosis?

If you have COPD you should stay in the house until you get your vaccinations
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OK, you are in the category where mask wearing is a problem. I guess you missed where I said you don’t need to wear a mask everywhere, just when around people. But with COPD, if you get covid what could be your prognosis?

What do you mean "IF"?
I posted my text message on page 2.
One test, two results. How does that happen?

No, I didn't miss where you said anything.

Mother Nature has a way of "thinning the herd".
Contagions are one way.
The greater the population, the faster things spread and the more people die.
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If you have COPD you should stay in the house until you get your vaccinations


I have the COPD, not he, and stayed home for 40+ days when I had it.
Zero contact w/ anyone.


The rest is not directed to/at you...

But, alas, I am not afraid of my own shadow, so I carry on with life.
I wear a mask where I must, but I no longer go into stores where I would be inside for more than five minutes or so.

I *could* be on disability, but I carry my own weight. I am not a useless eater and enjoy doing what I do.
When I die, I die.
At least I am comfortable with what I have accomplished in life, and each day on this side of the sod is a good day.

Remember, humans used to pass on in their 30's.
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It took Whitman 15 years to fess up.

Former EPA head admits she was wrong to tell New Yorkers post-9/11 air was safe

Funny, we knew that day what was in the air.
I still have the *used* P100 HEPA cartridges in plastic bags somewhere.
Guess what, I still came down with something from down there.


"Biological particles:
This type of cartridges helps prevent the inhalation of certain airborne biological particles like mold, Bacillus anthracis (Anthrax), Mycobacterium tuberculosis (Tubercle bacillus Koch) the main causative agent of tuberculosis, pandemic flues (H5N1, H1N1), etc. However, it cannot eliminate the risk of contracting infection, illness or disease. Of course, whenever one has to protect himself only from biological particles, one should definitely opt for something else than this equipment. P100 cartridges are by design made for workers who must protect themselves from biological particles on top of being protected from gases, vapours and airborne particles."
North cartridge/P100 filter for respirators series 5400, 7600 & 7700
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COVID numbers inflated, asymptomic transmission doesn't exist

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WHO Information Notice for IVD Users 2020/05
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Product type: Nucleic acid testing (NAT) technologies that use polymerase chain reaction (PCR) for detection of SARS-CoV-2

Date: 13 January 2021

WHO-identifier: 2020/5, version 2

Target audience: laboratory professionals and users of IVDs.

Purpose of this notice: clarify information previously provided by WHO. This notice supersedes WHO Information Notice for In Vitro Diagnostic Medical Device (IVD) Users 2020/05 version 1, issued 14 December 2020.

Description of the problem: WHO requests users to follow the instructions for use (IFU) when interpreting results for specimens tested using PCR methodology.

Users of IVDs must read and follow the IFU carefully to determine if manual adjustment of the PCR positivity threshold is recommended by the manufacturer.

WHO guidance Diagnostic testing for SARS-CoV-2 states that careful interpretation of weak positive results is needed (1). The cycle threshold (Ct) needed to detect virus is inversely proportional to the patient’s viral load. Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different NAT technology.

WHO reminds IVD users that disease prevalence alters the predictive value of test results; as disease prevalence decreases, the risk of false positive increases (2). This means that the probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as prevalence decreases, irrespective of the claimed specificity.

Most PCR assays are indicated as an aid for diagnosis, therefore, health care providers must consider any result in combination with timing of sampling, specimen type, assay specifics, clinical observations, patient history, confirmed status of any contacts, and epidemiological information.

Actions to be taken by IVD users:

Please read carefully the IFU in its entirety.
Contact your local representative if there is any aspect of the IFU that is unclear to you.
Check the IFU for each incoming consignment to detect any changes to the IFU.
Provide the Ct value in the report to the requesting health care provider.

Contact person for further information:

Anita SANDS, Regulation and Prequalification, World Health Organization, e-mail: [email protected]

References:

1. Diagnostic testing for SARS-CoV-2. Geneva: World Health Organization; 2020, WHO reference number WHO/2019-nCoV/laboratory/2020.6.

2. Altman DG, Bland JM. Diagnostic tests 2: Predictive values. BMJ. 1994 Jul 9;309(6947):102. doi: 10.1136/bmj.309.6947.102.
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Exclamation Real disease, fake pandemic.

If you read what WHO released on Jan 20, 2021, as Biden was becoming president, it says having a single positive Covid test does not mean you have Covid, need to have another confirming test.

That means if you were told you had one test, and you had NO symptoms, but the test was positive, now that means you do not have Covid.

This means no asymptomatic transmission as that no longer exists.

This also means wearing masks is a bunch of BS.

This also means that the Covid numbers are wildly inflated.

Wife went to see our Doctor yesterday and asked him what he though about the WHO new guidelines.

She was told:

"I am not allowed to comment about that at this time."

I think that right there is very alarming and speaks VOLUMES about all the bullshit we have been fed over the last ten months.

My guess is the lawsuits will start flying when this starts to really get out in the news.
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The COVID hysteria has served its purpose. It will fade away shortly.
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The COVID hysteria has served its purpose. It will fade away shortly.
Are you sure? I just read Gates' interview on the news yesterday. He talked about vaccinations and the difficult times we live in. A pandemic was mentioned between the lines and two years. Two years! I am more and more convinced that Covid is pure politics.
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I want to think that all that covid thing will end soon as well, but looks like today's powers want us to stay in this state for long time, this is what they say themselves: https://www.*****ute.com/video/N2cOYlBVDT52/ And of course I hope that they won't be able to make their plans a reality, although so far looks like they are winning.
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N95 masks. Filters outside particles from entering the body. Dust, ash, etc. Doesn't filter viruses. Replace often as the chog
Surgical masks. Helps stop spittle from entering open wounds and surgical procedures. Doesn't filter viruses. Replace often as they retain moisture from breath.
Cloth masks. Similar to surgical masks but much less effective, but is now fashionable. Retains moisture from breath and holds / breeds bacteria. Can contaminate respiratory system of wearer.
WuFlu is here to stay. There will be new viruses. Are you going to wear masks and live in fear your whole life? If so, you are easily conditioned.

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The N95 filters down to .6 microns, the WuFlu is 0.06-0.16 microns. Might as well strap a fishnet across your face to block drywall dust.

I constantly wonder why commons sense of mask proponents have yet to look to what virologists wear. They are in positive displacement hoods, with supplied filtered air, or at a minimum TIGHT fit respirators with extremely small pore cartridges rated as such.
Anything loose fit does not work.

If you feel I or others should "wear the damn mask", stay home and live a long sheltered miserable life of fear. Bacteria and Viruses are always all around us and are a constant in life that I won't live in fear of.
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The N95 filters down to .6 microns, the WuFlu is 0.06-0.16 microns. Might as well strap a fishnet across your face to block drywall dust.

I constantly wonder why commons sense of mask proponents have yet to look to what virologists wear. They are in positive displacement hoods, with supplied filtered air, or at a minimum TIGHT fit respirators with extremely small pore cartridges rated as such.
Anything loose fit does not work.

If you feel I or others should "wear the damn mask", stay home and live a long sheltered miserable life of fear. Bacteria and Viruses are always all around us and are a constant in life that I won't live in fear of.
Your entitled to your opinion, as we all are. This is how a lot of people felt right up to the time they contracted the covid 19 and gave it to there whole family in which several of them died. Now if it was just you that contracted it, and had to live or die is one thing, but sacrificing others for your stupidity is another.
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