I’m looking for the like button after that one! Lol


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Take the politics somewhere else....

It's almost like certain social media sites are shut down or something and people feel the need to bring there politrics here.

This got moved to Off Topic, but Off Topic is supposed to be politics-free as well so I dunno.



I liked this site better when people just talked about trucks.

And Biden is breaking records for volume of EO and EA in the first weeks of office.

if you don't think the increase in cost of fuel, be it from over-regulation or taxation, has no bearing on Toyotas plans for the 4R, then you might want to re-think that.

That seems related, but none of the other posts are.

Based on 18.4 cents per gallon, I pay roughly $116 per year in gas taxes (12,000 miles, 19 MPG=631 gallons, 631 x .184 = 116-ish). If it doubled to .36 per gallon, I would pay $227 a year. $111 a year. Perspective please.

Who the hell gets 19mpg..? Rollin more like 14-15 lol

It's those E rated doughnuts you are running for sure.

Wow. ONLY 18 cents per gallon at an astounding 19 MPG?
Up to $0.46 in NY and $0.51 in NJ.


When fuel was $4.50+ I was paying ~$90 to fill 20 gallons every 4 days.
When fuel was just $1.99 months back, I was paying ~$40 for 20 gallons every four days.
(Comes out to about $2,000/yr more for one vehicle.)
Say $460 in taxes alone, not just the fuel prices surging.


Some of the more efficient stuff I have see over 30k/yr.
Your math says you drive about 33 miles per day @ 12k miles/356 days.


Perspective?

But, If it happens, it happens. People drive less and there is less traffic.

Yes, perspective, which from mine says that it won't be a huge deal for me or my wife (drives a GTI 15K a year at 30-32 MPG). For others it may be a much bigger deal, which is understandable. If I had to drive 30K a year, it wouldn't be in a 4Runner. For me, paying $18K a year for health insurance and 25-28% income tax is a much bigger issue. Again, it's all about perspective.

So you're good with a 100% increase of this tax? You should not be.

What are you going to do when they (and you know who they are) decide to raise your income tax by 20% or 30% or 50%? Or maybe start with other tax increases so people will follow your idea?

Indifference to to such a large increase will put you a road to nowhere real fast.


Eddie

Tax his land, tax his wage,
Tax his bed in which he lays.
Tax his tractor, tax his mule,
Teach him taxes is the rule.

Tax his cow, tax his goat,
Tax his pants, tax his coat.
Tax his ties, tax his shirts,
Tax his work, tax his dirt.

Tax his chew, tax his smoke,
Teach him taxes are no joke.
Tax his car, tax his grass,
Tax the roads he must pass.

Tax his food, tax his drink,
Tax him if he tries to think.
Tax his sodas, tax his beers,
If he cries, tax his tears.

Tax his bills, tax his gas,
Tax his notes, tax his cash.
Tax him good and let him know
That after taxes, he has no dough.

If he hollers, tax him more,
Tax him until he’s good and sore.
Tax his coffin, tax his grave,
Tax the sod in which he lays.

Put these words upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me to my doom!"
And when he’s gone, we won’t relax,
We’ll still be after the inheritance tax.

The Tax Poem by Author Unknown - Your Daily Poem

They already did. That awesome new tax "reform" that benefitted corporations and rich people has me paying another $2-3k in taxes every year.

And I'm not wealthy by any stretch.

Taxes serve a purpose. But what's screwed up is who ends up paying the bulk of them. A hint: it's NOT the people who can afford to make big campaign contributions.

And speaking of those kinds of people...

In a former lifetime, I used to work immigration violations. A border "wall" stopping illegal immigration is a promise almost as empty as shampoo that miraculously grows hair on bald men, or an email from an attorney in Nigeria who can make you rich if you help him out with a "small processing fee ." 🙄.

It's a promise used by xenophobic politicians to folks who don't know any better.

Illegal immigration will continue as long as there are jobs for the illegals. And there will always be jobs when there are little or no consequences for the people who pay them. Why are there no consequences, you ask?

Excellent question. Because the CEO's, business owners, and wealthy stockholders make big campaign donations. And those they contribute money to end up putting political weight on the agencies charged with enforcing the law.

The way it used to work (and it's similar now, but the agency names and some of the terminology are different) was simple. If too many illegals start crossing and maybe there are a few high-profile crimes in the news, the political talking heads will tell us all that they're going to "get tough" on illegals and will tell the agencies to start hitting the meat plants, factories, etc. Then, when we started taking away their labor (even though it was always temporary), the companies start whining and the reins are pulled back.

I actually saw this happen: the INS investigations office in Bloomington, MN was in a big building with multiple tenants (not the federal building). There was a company contracted by building management to do the cleaning at night. It usually ended up that some of their employees were illegal. When the agency was told to "get tough," they'd round up people from their own building's cleaning crew. Otherwise, they let them be. It wasn't the law that dictated whether or not the cleaning guy could stay and work. It was politics. And while the owner of the cleaning company was probably not the kind of guy to have any influence, you can imagine the kinds of influence that DID come into play when you have politically-induced selective enforcement of the law (or don't) across the entire country.

So the only consequences were for the illegals, themselves. They got sent back, but were not criminally prosecuted or even "deported," per se. They were "Voluntarily Returned." By agreeing to go home on Uncle Sam's dime, they avoided criminal liability.

And they were back inside a month, anyway. If you want to make an illegal immigrant's day, arrest him inside the Hormel meat plant where he's working - in Minnesota, and in February - and tell him he's getting a free plane ride back to Mexico or Central America. A little vacation in the sun and, once he can feel his toes again, he's back.

So the entire "build a wall" campaign promise was probably the dumbest one I've seen in my lifetime.

Can there be some kind of a rebate for driving an older vehicle? Reason being that you are not contributing to the environmental cost of putting one in a junk yard and creating a new one. I think the value of that is rarely, if ever, taken into consideration.

Sure, auto manufacturers and the supply chain upstream do not benefit but if the cause is truly for the environment, why can't we attack from another angle?