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Very interesting articles about Tesla unlocking additional battery capacity in an emergency. They’re from three years ago, do you have any more recent info on this, or know anyone who has inside knowledge? I wonder if Tesla still does that to the newer models. An additional 30 mile range doesn’t seem like much to pay a premium for.
I thought the 80% capacity limitation was to get the most life out of the lithium battery pack. That’s the recommendation of some other OEMs for lithium-powered devices.
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02-11-2021, 12:13 AM
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Why can't you guys quit with all the little pissing matches. I am tired of having to run down all these reported posts. Keep it up and you guys can just move to another forum. I will not issue any more warnings to you guys.
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08-16-2021, 09:20 AM
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No more gassers or diesels for me. Done with the pollution. The next one will be an EV and probably a Tesla since they have the best charging infrastructure. If I ever need help, I'll post here.
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08-16-2021, 12:22 PM
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No more gassers or diesels for me. Done with the pollution. The next one will be an EV and probably a Tesla since they have the best charging infrastructure. If I ever need help, I'll post here.
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Please tell us where you think all of that electricity will come from for all of those EV's ?
Sun - nope not enough and China isn't letting go of the minerals that are needed
Wave power - Nope they have been "experimenting" off the Jersey Shore for decades and I haven't seen it proliferate.
Nuclear Energy - Gates and a few others seem to think its the best way. Gets a little messy if they leak and it takes decades to get one built.
Coal - coal plants cheap and easy to build
natural gas - cheap and easy to build generators
Diesel generators - many islands in the caribbean get all of their electricity from piston engine diesels.
Ill stick with my gasoline cars. EV's blow goats.
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08-16-2021, 01:21 PM
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I really don't care what you think. In Colorado, we have cut coal use (as a source) from 68% to 38%. Oil sources are going down to a much smaller percentage, while renewables are increasing each year. Look at eia.gov if curious. Gas and diesel blow, and we are done with that. Heck, we even have stopped buying synthetic-fiber clothing. We look for cotton, organic cotton, linen, and merino. Gotta do our part, for the future generations. Obviously, some never will. I don't even buy O&G stocks anymore, or finds that hold O&G or Tobacco. I'm happy with that.
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08-16-2021, 01:39 PM
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I really don't care what you think. In Colorado, we have cut coal use (as a source) from 68% to 38%. Oil sources are going down to a much smaller percentage, while renewables are increasing each year. Look at eia.gov if curious. Gas and diesel blow, and we are done with that. Heck, we even have stopped buying synthetic-fiber clothing. We look for cotton, organic cotton, linen, and merino. Gotta do our part, for the future generations. Obviously, some never will. I don't even buy O&G stocks anymore, or finds that hold O&G or Tobacco. I'm happy with that.
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And in Colorado coal is continuing to decline until it’s nearly gone by 2030, yet there is no plan on how to replace it. I will not be in Colorado when the crunch happens, but it’s coming.
I like the attitude of wanting to clean up our lands, water, and air, but Colorado is in trouble if this movement continues without a plan.
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08-16-2021, 02:29 PM
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Jeez! I dont understand the disdain for someone who drives an ev.
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08-16-2021, 02:48 PM
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Jeez! I dont understand the disdain for someone who drives an ev.
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No more gassers or diesels for me. Done with the pollution. The next one will be an EV and probably a Tesla since they have the best charging infrastructure. If I ever need help, I'll post here.
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Because batteries are NOT the answer. It’s a distraction. Do some research. The production of those batteries has huge environmental impacts. It’s considered worse by some.
Lithium Batteries' Dirty Secret: Manufacturing Them Leaves Massive Carbon Footprint | IndustryWeek
The spiralling environmental cost of our lithium battery addiction | WIRED UK
The Environmental Impact of Lithium Batteries - IER
Transitioning isn’t even feasible. There’s tons of other resources needed. Like silver for example. Here’s an excerpt for a description of The Penasquito Silver Mine silver mine just to put it in perspective.
”Covering nearly 40 square miles [100 square kilometers], the operation is staggering in its scale: a sprawling open-pit complex ripped into the mountains, flanked by two waste dumps each a mile long, and a tailings dam full of toxic sludge held back by a wall that’s 7 miles around and as high as a 50-story skyscraper. This mine will produce 11,000 tons of silver in 10 years before its reserves, the biggest in the world, are gone.
To transition the global economy to renewables, we need to commission up to 130 more mines on the scale of Peñasquito. Just for silver.”
That’s the biggest reserve on the planet and it’s one 1/100th of what we need.
The only solution is to change our way of life. By people won’t give up air conditioning and 70 miles per hour.
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08-16-2021, 02:59 PM
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And in Colorado coal is continuing to decline until it’s nearly gone by 2030, yet there is no plan on how to replace it. I will not be in Colorado when the crunch happens, but it’s coming.
I like the attitude of wanting to clean up our lands, water, and air, but Colorado is in trouble if this movement continues without a plan.
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What, Colorado has no plan on how to replace coal for electrical generation?
How about this:
Resource Plans | Xcel Energy
And drill down to this 2021 plan:
Xcel Energy
“ Details of the plan include resource additions (figures are approximate) between 2021 and 2030:
2,300 MW of wind
1,600 MW of large scale solar
400 MW of battery storage
1,300 MW of dispatchable resources (those that are available 24/7)
1,200 MW of distributed solar resources”
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08-16-2021, 05:00 PM
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What, Colorado has no plan on how to replace coal for electrical generation?
How about this:
Resource Plans | Xcel Energy
And drill down to this 2021 plan:
Xcel Energy
“ Details of the plan include resource additions (figures are approximate) between 2021 and 2030:
2,300 MW of wind
1,600 MW of large scale solar
400 MW of battery storage
1,300 MW of dispatchable resources (those that are available 24/7)
1,200 MW of distributed solar resources”
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That is the goal of a private corporation. Like I said, COLORADO has no plan. There are no state programs at all to ensure it happens. Just hoping a big evil energy corporation fixes everything. One day they are satan, the next they are saviors. A trainwreck is coming. Watch.
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08-16-2021, 06:36 PM
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Batteries are one answer for sure. Battery tech will be helpful. Hydrogen, I hope, will be a better answer...nuclear energy as well. Just no more gassers or diesels...just sold the diesel RAM 3500 back to the dealer for $4K more than I paid for it, so why not. I'm getting ready to sell the Jeep and replace it with some EV. We work for home now so driving is down by 80% anyway. In seven years (if things go well) heck, we may just retire early, take our retirement funds, go to one of the couple of other places we have looked at, and relax for a change in another country. Let's see...
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08-17-2021, 02:51 PM
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I really don't care what you think. In Colorado, we have cut coal use (as a source) from 68% to 38%. Oil sources are going down to a much smaller percentage, while renewables are increasing each year. Look at eia.gov if curious. Gas and diesel blow, and we are done with that. Heck, we even have stopped buying synthetic-fiber clothing. We look for cotton, organic cotton, linen, and merino. Gotta do our part, for the future generations. Obviously, some never will. I don't even buy O&G stocks anymore, or finds that hold O&G or Tobacco. I'm happy with that.
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Batteries are one answer for sure. Battery tech will be helpful. Hydrogen, I hope, will be a better answer...nuclear energy as well. Just no more gassers or diesels...just sold the diesel RAM 3500 back to the dealer for $4K more than I paid for it, so why not. I'm getting ready to sell the Jeep and replace it with some EV. We work for home now so driving is down by 80% anyway. In seven years (if things go well) heck, we may just retire early, take our retirement funds, go to one of the couple of other places we have looked at, and relax for a change in another country. Let's see...
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I BBQ my beef cuts every weekend over charcoal that I start with newspaper. I throw away our aluminum pop and beer cans and plastic containers too. I use 2 feet of toilet paper to wipe my butthole and I flush at least two times. My "new" 4Runner gets 20 mpg. My lawnmower uses gasoline and it doesn't have a catalytic converter. I do save my grass clippings so the borough can make some money off them. I bake pizza with a gas oven at 550°F in the summer with the AC on. I take scenic drives for no reason at all except to be with my wife.
I think people like you are funny.
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08-17-2021, 03:30 PM
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Well, you are from New Jersey, so I'm glad you find me funny. One should take that as a compliments. I found NJ funny, though Ridgewood at least has a couple of decent restaurants going for it...about all it has but decent.
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08-17-2021, 03:43 PM
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Batteries are one answer for sure. Battery tech will be helpful. Hydrogen, I hope, will be a better answer...nuclear energy as well. Just no more gassers or diesels...just sold the diesel RAM 3500 back to the dealer for $4K more than I paid for it, so why not. I'm getting ready to sell the Jeep and replace it with some EV. We work for home now so driving is down by 80% anyway. In seven years (if things go well) heck, we may just retire early, take our retirement funds, go to one of the couple of other places we have looked at, and relax for a change in another country. Let's see...
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Nuclear is a complete and total waste of time. If the US would sink a fraction of the money we’re burning right now, we’d have fusion in 10 years. And US companies would have real wealth built into them by being those who provided this for the world.
But the nut jobs freaking out about oil and gas only know what they’re told by their political masters and are fighting the wrong battles. The war is to get fusion. They’re clueless about that and until their conversation changes to one of knowledge instead of ignorance they will just be kicking the can down the road for someone who knows and gets it done. Sadly, they think they’re the solution. It’s pitiful to watch them flail around ignorantly.
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08-17-2021, 04:02 PM
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As long as well work towards using less and less coal, and O&G, the solutions are what they will be. The production of coal, and O&G plus their transport, is resulting in millions of tons of methane and gigatons of CO2 each year. That is what I will try to do...reduce our reliance on that as an individual. Solar panels are good up like crazy in some areas here, due to the abundance of sunshine. That should be an easy one. We will get some bids next month. If the market does not do anything totally crazy, I can get my EV by year-end. That dual-motor Tesla is just sick, and blazing fast.
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