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Old 02-23-2021, 04:22 PM #16
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Huh?

There was no “shifting”.

Green energy is supplementing the gas/oil/nuclear mix because it made economic sense. No one forced Texas to install it. It’s all about the money.
There's a big shift under way. They've shut down many coal plants and have plans to shut down many more. Need to make up the difference somehow, green sounds good on the surface (to some) so $ is sent that way.

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Colete Creek coal to close. Can Texas shut down all its remaining coal by 2030? | Energy Central
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There's a big shift under way. They've shut down many coal plants and have plans to shut down many more. Need to make up the difference somehow, green sounds good on the surface (to some) so $ is sent that way.

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Colete Creek coal to close. Can Texas shut down all its remaining coal by 2030? | Energy Central
Good links, thx.
Yeah, a lot of coal plants are privately owned and just canít compete with natural gas plants. The cost of fueling, upgrading aging equipment, maintenance, etc, is just too high. So they close. Even with massive expansion of wind, solar, and improvements in storage, weíre always going to need to burn something to generate continuous power. Nat gas is the preferred way now. Letís hope the agencies in CA, TX, and other states can get their shit together and learn from their mistakes. Otherwise we all suffer.
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It sounds like you’re blaming windmills for the power outages. (Wind power is only about 20% of the TX power mix). Ercot cheaped out by not buying carbon fiber heated blades which will not ice up. It’s not like Texas never gets cold. Windmills perform in winter all around the world in extreme temps. Plus if Ercot weren’t so independent and unregulated they could draw power from other system operators. Oklahoma does and they’re OK.
Just gonna throw this out there. Itís about all the research Iím gonna do on this subject. This is from a MachineDesign article on January 21, 2021:

ď Due to the high cost of carbon-fiber composite blades, only one firm uses them extensively in its blade designs.Ē

So maybe cheaping out isnít exactly what they did. Maybe theyíre uncommon and expensive.
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Its not him blaming wind power directly, but the linking of an article from a far-right radical conspiracy theory blog that is known for publishing lots of wacky ideas, that does blame wind power. Itís been banned from FB and Twitter in the past and that author ďTyler DurdenĒ is a pseudonym for several staff writers. Hardly a reputable source.

That Zero Hedge article while stating some facts, it selectively mentions frozen turbines many times, not the whole story, and would lead an uninformed reader to believe wind power played a major role in the power problem. Instead of the real problem of no regulation to force winterization of the stateís power infrastructure. Gas and oil generators froze up too. This is not a one-off occurrence. Itís happened before and will likely again if warnings are not heeded. Even this polar vortex cold blast was predicted weeks in advance.

With no power for days, house damage from frozen and burst pipes, drinking water shortages, I donít think Texans are all that concerned about their Teslas.
Since when is being banned by FB and Twitter meaningful? Iím sure you recognize that they ban in only one direction.
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Just gonna throw this out there. Itís about all the research Iím gonna do on this subject. This is from a MachineDesign article on January 21, 2021:

ď Due to the high cost of carbon-fiber composite blades, only one firm uses them extensively in its blade designs.Ē

So maybe cheaping out isnít exactly what they did. Maybe theyíre uncommon and expensive.
That sounds correct. Blades made entirely out of carbon fiber are expensive and rare. Sandia labs is working on a new carbon fiber technology geared toward less expensive and stronger blades.

What is used now by a Swedish company are thin carbon fiber coatings that are heated when sensors determine there is a risk of icing.
Other techniques they use are repellent coatings and circulating heated air inside the blades. Itís not perfect and must be expensive, but itís worth it to them since they want to operate all year round. In Canada too.
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Since when is being banned by FB and Twitter meaningful? Iím sure you recognize that they ban in only one direction.
Uh... itís not really meaningful by itself. But to get warned or banned you do have to have a track record of posting falsehoods for the sake of being disruptive. And thatís bad for business.

FB and Twitter donít have any philosophical agenda other than making money.
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Uh... itís not really meaningful by itself. But to get warned or banned you do have to have a track record of posting falsehoods for the sake of being disruptive. And thatís bad for business.

FB and Twitter donít have any philosophical agenda other than making money.
Sorry, I disagree with your last statement. I don’t believe you or I are privy to their real philosophical agendas. I do believe making money isn’t the only one.
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Sorry, I disagree with your last statement. I donít believe you or I are privy to their real philosophical agendas. I do believe making money isnít the only one.
You have a point there. Theyíve always seemed invasive to me, scooping up so much user info, so Iíve never joined. Never wanted to be ďthe productĒ. Itís kind of troubling that for so many people itís their main source of news.
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