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Koko4 02-03-2016 11:47 PM

4Runner Camping Mods
 
I'm wondering who else likes to sleep in their 4Runner when they're out camping. What are some of the mods that you've done to make it a more enjoyable experience? So far, I have built a storage platform for the rear, based on RamRod's thread (Link to his pictures)

Here's a picture of mine, before I stained it
https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums...o.jpg~original

I tried to build magnetic screen coverings for the side and rear windows, but the magnets I bought were not very good. They were too small, and kept sticking to each other, and it was also difficult to sew the trim around the window screens. So I gave up on that project, and was looking at some commercial alternatives such as this one:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/..._.jpg~original
Amazon Link
Anyone use one of these before? I'd like to make one for the rear window, but can't figure out how to deal with the damn rear wiper being in the way..

Anyone install any type of insulation in the rear panels, to make it warmer while you're sleeping in the cold? I'm wondering if this would be a winter-only thing, and if I'd have to remove it in the summer to avoid baking like an oven. Thoughts?

I found a thread on YotaTech where a guy was selling an old '87 4Runner, and in his post he said

Quote:

Sleeping area has been fully insulated with Reflectix liner to keep things cool/warm.
The stuff seems pretty thin, and I definitely think it would help cover the window glass and keep the warmth from escaping there. I don't know if it'd be suitable for behind the rear cargo area panels. I don't feel like pulling all the panels and installing the Reflectix in the winter, only to remove it all come spring time.

http://www.airstreampadawan.com/uplo...g.jpg~original

http://www.downbytheriver.us/article...r.jpg~original

You guys do any inverter mods / LED lighting / fans for the rear or anything of that nature?

Koko4 02-04-2016 12:40 AM

Update:

Reflectix is best used for situations where you have a lot of radiant heat entering the vehicle (summer-time). You can put it in the window, and it will effectively reflect the heat back out, preventing it from warming up the vehicle.

You can also use it behind paneling, but you have to make sure to leave at least a 1/2" air gap between the exterior wall of your vehicle, and the Reflectix. Otherwise the "R" value is super-low and it doesn't reflect the heat out as well.

If you're mainly camping in cold weather, then you want to insulate, in order the keep the heat in. In order to do this, you'd use a product called PolyIso (van-dwellers are using it inside their vans, non-toxic). This, however, would also keep the heat inside the vehicle longer during hot, summer days. You really have to judge what conditions you're going to be using the vehicle for.

The site also said that if you have an A/C setup in your vehicle (to run while sleeping during the summer), then you CAN insulate using PolyIso, because it will help keep the A/C inside and the heat out. With no A/C, the PolyIso is basically working against you.

As I understand, you can also use a combination of the two, but you'd have to have the outer sheet metal, then the 1/2" air gap, then the Reflectix, then the PolyIso.

Hope this can help someone else, because I had no idea about any of this until I started reading on CheapRVDweller. Pretty cool blog if any of you guys are into that stuff.

tx_shooter 02-04-2016 12:54 AM

I like the removable rear seat bolt mod so as to allow an extra 6-8" of cargo area. They are sold as "Camping rear seat cushion bolts" and would have been awesome when I got stuck sleeping in my 4R in Big Bend last December.


Camping Rear Seat Cushion Wing Bolts $70.00 & 5.95 USPS - $75.95 : Sonoran Steel, Sonoran Steel Custom Metal Fabrication L.L.C. Custom Toyota Truck Parts

Koko4 02-04-2016 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tx_shooter (Post 2257053)
I like the removable rear seat bolt mod so as to allow an extra 6-8" of cargo area. They are sold as "Camping rear seat cushion bolts" and would have been awesome when I got stuck sleeping in my 4R in Big Bend last December.


Camping Rear Seat Cushion Wing Bolts $70.00 & 5.95 USPS - $75.95 : Sonoran Steel, Sonoran Steel Custom Metal Fabrication L.L.C. Custom Toyota Truck Parts

That's really a good idea! Might have to weld some of those up.. Steve sure has found an awesome niche with all of his 4Runner products.

A.Wilson013 02-04-2016 01:06 AM

Is that price for real?? $20 + shipping for him to drill holes in my plastic? lol

Koko4 02-04-2016 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.Wilson013 (Post 2257068)
Is that price for real?? $20 + shipping for him to drill holes in my plastic? lol

People will pay it. Also, another one of my favorites is the emergency brake cable extension bracket. I had a 1/2" wide piece of scrap, drilled two holes, and bought one more 12mm bolt...voila.

But people will pay it. Like I said, he's got a good niche :juggle:

AZBub 02-04-2016 01:27 AM

4Runner Camping Mods
 
for a window screen someone had mentioned using rain gutter screen panels or something that worked perfect. Maybe someone can post a link to that. Search sucks through Tapatalk.

BTW I like the idea of this thread.

b.abel 02-04-2016 02:04 AM

1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5/Limited build
 
2 Attachment(s)
here is the box i built, the door is magnetic and it hold my two subs and all of my tools and other miscellaneous things.

A.Wilson013 02-04-2016 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZBub (Post 2257083)
for a window screen someone had mentioned using rain gutter screen panels or something that worked perfect. Maybe someone can post a link to that. Search sucks through Tapatalk.

BTW I like the idea of this thread.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-ge...ow-screen.html

I have a set that I have used quite a few times. I love them =D.

Painted black w/ spray paint for cool points.

D Farms 02-04-2016 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.Wilson013 (Post 2257068)
Is that price for real?? $20 + shipping for him to drill holes in my plastic? lol

lol also the 75 for 4 bolts you can make from stuff at the hardware store.

MStudt 02-04-2016 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D Farms (Post 2257204)
lol also the 75 for 4 bolts you can make from stuff at the hardware store.

No fancy TIG welding though.

JeepKiller 02-04-2016 10:13 AM

Wow those bolts are a great idea. Although I refuse to buy anything from SS mainly because of stuff like this. $75 for maybe $7 in materials? Not to mention they offer drilling 1.5" holes in "just the right spot" for $20 + shipping. That's disgusting. :hiding:

Sisente 02-04-2016 10:18 AM

I used the reflective insulation in between my headliner and roof for noise dampening. It has worked pretty well. Not sure how well it is insulating because I don't camp in severe conditions. Most of my camping is beach trips.

white_n_slow 02-04-2016 11:07 AM

Those wing bolts are great! I always just brought along my ratchet to pull the seats out, but that's definitely more convenient :) Might make some for the lexus!

7echo 02-04-2016 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.Wilson013 (Post 2257068)
Is that price for real?? $20 + shipping for him to drill holes in my plastic? lol

Think about it this way-

There are far more guys out there that can't do stuff now. I bet 1/2 the dudes that say $20 is too much(not on this forum, this forum has a lot of skilled and smart members) will go to HD or Lowes and buy 1 1/2" bit. When they get it home it won't fit in their 3/8" chuck. So they will go back and swap it for something else. Maybe a paddle bit, or a uni bit. They will not layout the holes correctly and the hole will be off. So they will 'waller' it out to fit. It will look like a$$. And they will crack the plastic part after taking it off and putting it back on the 7 times it takes them to fit it up and get the 'waller' part in the right spot.

I would not pay $20 + shipping, but some people will, and a lot more should, lol.

WATony 02-04-2016 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.Wilson013 (Post 2257196)
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-ge...ow-screen.html

I have a set that I have used quite a few times. I love them =D.

Painted black w/ spray paint for cool points.

That's great, on mine I just cut some screen door screen matirial to go over the window and glued magnets to the screen and rolled them up when not in uses.

michaelj 02-04-2016 12:15 PM

Awesome ideas. I am planning my first big road trip for this summer in the 4runner. Pulling a teardrop camper for the kids. The lady and I are talking about sleeping in the truck. Memphis, TN to Denver, CO. I need to get on the stick getting everything ready.

volkinator 02-04-2016 12:16 PM

Love this thread! Can't wait to see what else gets added. My thoughts on insulating though are to do a closed cell foam insulation, with reflective surface on one side. In the summer, point reflective surface out to prevent the heat from getting in, and in winter, reflective surface in to keep the heat in. I can't imagine it would have to be thick, and you could just have cutouts. I've also go ideas for fans, but I'd like to pursue it and see what happens. I love the idea of the bug screens over the windows. I need to come up with something for that. I need to get the window visors first though. Keep the rain out! I keep a notebook of all the ideas I want to do going. I don't think the wing nuts are really that necessary. who doesn't have a ratchet set with them? and if I'm going to be camping, I'll take them out and leave them at home anyways, where I have a full toolbox. I also just keep the plastic covers off so I don't lose them or break them...

0xfded 02-04-2016 01:17 PM

+1 to the sleeping platform. I've gotten pretty good use out the one I built, though it almost crushed my hand when I was closing the gate:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/attach...i-img_0694.jpg

Couple of other camping centric mods:

Ceiling Cargo Net for stashing stuff while sleeping in the rear + hanging a light:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/attach...i-img_0663.jpg

And a battery pack + USB install for keeping gadgets charged without running the engine or drawing on the main battery:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/attach...i-img_0770.jpg

And a rear window switch that doesn't require the key in ignition:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/attach...i-img_0559.jpg

That last one is more useful than it seems--it doubles as an interior gate latch (just roll the window down and use the outside latch. :D)

D Farms 02-04-2016 01:19 PM

I dont even have those pieces any more, they broke when i was a kid. also those bolts go into a nut thats welded onto a piece of thin sheet metal, and after having taken out the front seats a few times, i have broken one on each side. the ones in the rear will do the same thing, from what I remember the threads got galled and the bolt locked up with the nut and then ripped the metal apart.

RoofRack 02-04-2016 04:04 PM

Rear Deck Shelf
 
I made a rear deck so that I can stow all the camping gear and still be able to access the stuff on the bottom.
http://i.imgur.com/zKAA5wf.jpg
It works well. Plus the dog gets a good seat on the top there.

-M

volkinator 02-04-2016 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoofRack (Post 2257601)
I made a rear deck so that I can stow all the camping gear and still be able to access the stuff on the bottom.
It works well. Plus the dog gets a good seat on the top there.

-M

Dat Resolution Doe

tx_shooter 02-06-2016 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.Wilson013 (Post 2257068)
Is that price for real?? $20 + shipping for him to drill holes in my plastic? lol

You sound like a guy who has some mechanical and fabrication know-how. There are a lot of people out there who have no clue which end of a socket goes on the nut. People like that keep a lot of the niche fabrication companies in business. Also people who have more time than money. I bought my sliders premade because right now I have more work than spare time and would rather be wheeling than welding at the moment.

Hopefully the busy thing subsides so I can get in the garage again soon. I have a good idea for a tray system in the back of my 4R.

xcmtb83 02-06-2016 11:11 AM

My favorite camping mod is the dome light mod I came up with (shameless plug). Instead of three independent switches for the dome lights this mod makes all three dome lights turn on when any door or the hatch is opened. I got tired of looking for stuff in the dark! I recently drove another third gen at night and wondered why the hell it was so dark when entering, then it dawned on me. haha The link describes in greater detail the process.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/sale-t...423-%2425.html

dtc81 02-06-2016 08:22 PM

http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original

General first aid and camp necessities in this MOLLE window panel I made

sitandspin 02-06-2016 08:34 PM

that window panel is great! looks so good

also, how many replies do i need to post before i can post a new thread? i wanna show off my build!

v_man 02-06-2016 08:48 PM

Interior LED lights , they're hooked up to a remote for , uh , mood lighting :banana:

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/t...c.jpg~original

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/t...u.jpg~original

and of course the most important mod of all time ...

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/t...e.jpg~original

bottle opener bumper...

rkntoy 02-06-2016 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtc81 (Post 2259673)
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original

General first aid and camp necessities in this MOLLE window panel I made

How is that attached?

Mighty Buffalo 02-07-2016 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0xfded (Post 2257455)

And a rear window switch that doesn't require the key in ignition:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/attach...i-img_0559.jpg

That last one is more useful than it seems--it doubles as an interior gate latch (just roll the window down and use the outside latch. :D)

I like that, seems pretty convenient. How is it wired in?

I think my next camping mod will be some sort of shades for the windows. It gets super hot after the sun comes up.

0xfded 02-07-2016 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mighty Buffalo (Post 2259965)
I like that, seems pretty convenient. How is it wired in?

Taps into three wires off the rear gate control unit. There are some details and pictures in my build thread.

dwmckeehen 02-07-2016 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtc81 (Post 2259673)
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original

General first aid and camp necessities in this MOLLE window panel I made

What did you use to attach it? I like this.

dwmckeehen 02-07-2016 05:32 PM

Here is our sleeper/storage platform, with a link to the build thread for it.

http://www.mckeehenmaierphotography....O/DSC09908.jpg

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-ge...-platform.html

papabeach 02-07-2016 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko4 (Post 2256954)
I'm wondering who else likes to sleep in their 4Runner when they're out camping. What are some of the mods that you've done to make it a more enjoyable experience? So far, I have built a storage platform for the rear, based on RamRod's thread (Link to his pictures)

Here's a picture of mine, before I stained it
https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums...o.jpg~original

I tried to build magnetic screen coverings for the side and rear windows, but the magnets I bought were not very good. They were too small, and kept sticking to each other, and it was also difficult to sew the trim around the window screens. So I gave up on that project, and was looking at some commercial alternatives such as this one:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/..._.jpg~original
Amazon Link
Anyone use one of these before? I'd like to make one for the rear window, but can't figure out how to deal with the damn rear wiper being in the way..

Anyone install any type of insulation in the rear panels, to make it warmer while you're sleeping in the cold? I'm wondering if this would be a winter-only thing, and if I'd have to remove it in the summer to avoid baking like an oven. Thoughts?

I found a thread on YotaTech where a guy was selling an old '87 4Runner, and in his post he said



The stuff seems pretty thin, and I definitely think it would help cover the window glass and keep the warmth from escaping there. I don't know if it'd be suitable for behind the rear cargo area panels. I don't feel like pulling all the panels and installing the Reflectix in the winter, only to remove it all come spring time.

http://www.airstreampadawan.com/uplo...g.jpg~original

http://www.downbytheriver.us/article...r.jpg~original

You guys do any inverter mods / LED lighting / fans for the rear or anything of that nature?

FWIW, we have been using those window socks for a couple years, they were great...we use them for the kids and have no problems staying in place. Best shade/ventilation option we have found.

dtc81 02-08-2016 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkntoy (Post 2259703)
How is that attached?

There are steel tabs that extend off the metal grate and get sheet metal screwed to the window pinch weld. I trimmed the interior plastic panel to fit. It's very solid

skcolb 02-08-2016 01:01 PM

Here's a tube frame sleeping platform with storage underneath that I built for camping trips.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-ge...-platform.html

http://i.imgur.com/Q2nBceC.jpg

Summit5Runner 04-04-2018 04:32 PM

I really like the interior rear window button, I bet that is super useful for camping and sleeping in the T4R.

Exonetics 04-24-2021 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v_man (Post 2259699)
Interior LED lights , they're hooked up to a remote for , uh , mood lighting :banana:

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/t...c.jpg~original

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/t...u.jpg~original

and of course the most important mod of all time ...

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/t...e.jpg~original

bottle opener bumper...

This is fantastic! Can you send me details?


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