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gtojimbo 11-20-2023 05:15 PM
starter wouldnt quit running
 
this morning i jumped in my 4runner, turned the key to start the engine and the starter wouldnt quit! i twisted the key back and forth several times and the starter wouldnt shut off! i put the tranny in nuetral, (manual) popped the hood and was scrambling to find a wrench to disconnect the battery and just as i got to the battery with a wrench, it stopped. it scared the hell out of me, mostly because it was surprising.

i'm guessing a stuck starter solenoid--it doesnt look like new starters are available anymore what would my best replacement be? i would appreciate suggestions--thankyou

Bad Luck 11-20-2023 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gtojimbo (Post 3819759)
this morning i jumped in my 4runner, turned the key to start the engine and the starter wouldnt quit! i twisted the key back and forth several times and the starter wouldnt shut off! i put the tranny in nuetral, (manual) popped the hood and was scrambling to find a wrench to disconnect the battery and just as i got to the battery with a wrench, it stopped. it scared the hell out of me, mostly because it was surprising.

i'm guessing a stuck starter solenoid--it doesnt look like new starters are available anymore what would my best replacement be? i would appreciate suggestions--thankyou
Sounds like a sticking plunger to me. Denso 280-0167 would be the direct replacement (1.4kw) but you can also use Denso 280-0166 (1.8kw). The Denso 280-0166 is larger dimensionally. You could also rebuild your current starter.

gtojimbo 11-20-2023 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad Luck (Post 3819765)
Sounds like a sticking plunger to me. Denso 280-0167 would be the direct replacement (1.4kw) but you can also use Denso 280-0166 (1.8kw). The Denso 280-0166 is larger dimensionally. You could also rebuild your current starter.
do you think rebuilding the original one is better than buying another one?

96RedRunner 11-20-2023 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gtojimbo (Post 3819768)
do you think rebuilding the original one is better than buying another one?
I'll second @Bad Luck 's thoughts Contacts welded together.

New Plunger and contact kit would be first thought as long as starter wasn't making odd noises acting normal.
Got almost 400k mi doing this twice bearings never changed, died in a crash.

Bad Luck 11-20-2023 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gtojimbo (Post 3819768)
do you think rebuilding the original one is better than buying another one?
If the current starter is OEM/Denso then I would rebuild it. If it's aftermarket (not OEM/Denso) then I would replace it.

phattyduck 11-20-2023 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad Luck (Post 3819777)
If the current starter is OEM/Denso then I would rebuild it. If it's aftermarket (not OEM/Denso) then I would replace it.
Seconded. And by 'rebuild' we mean new contacts and plunger. It is quite easy.

The first time my starter failed it stuck on like this. Most recent failure (around 300k miles) was long wait before engagement of the starter or multiple tries to get the starter to engage.

https://i.imgur.com/oxLLKFWh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9IkfG83h.jpg

-Charlie

gtojimbo 11-20-2023 08:26 PM
wow, thanks for the input! my starter is original and the reason i asked is i've heard the ones from autozone arent too good. yotashop.com makes a point of theirs being rebuilt by denso too original factory specs and i thought it might be better.

mtbtim 11-21-2023 12:28 AM
Same thing happened to me. The plunger got stuck against the copper contacts. Rebuild the solenoid with new contacts and plunger and carry on.

I've got a video for the job.

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gtojimbo 11-21-2023 02:31 AM
great video--thats what i'm going to do,thx

thennen 11-21-2023 08:19 AM
Is there an aftermarket remote start? I had a similar failure due to that failing.


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