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Ukraine Train 06-04-2014 07:37 AM

What's causing my rear tire wear?
 
I put new tires on last summer and the rears have really worn down already. Any suggestions on what it could be? The control arms don't appear to be bent but maybe the bushings are worn and let the axle shift? The truck drives straight and smooth, though. I don't hear any bearing noise either.

netwon 06-04-2014 08:45 AM

Could you post a picture of the rear tire tread. It helps in determining the cause of the wear. What pressure do you run?

Ukraine Train 06-04-2014 09:06 AM

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Here's the left rear, right rear, and a front for comparison. There's definitely more wear on the outside of the tread. I run 32PSI but bumped it up a couple PSI once I noticed the wear, just to get a little more load on the center part of the tread.

Buckles 06-04-2014 09:23 AM

Have you rotated the tires since you purchased them?

Ukraine Train 06-04-2014 09:32 AM

I don't drive very much so I haven't rotated them.

Greydog 06-04-2014 09:39 AM

That looks like classic ezcessive toe-in on both front tires.

Were these rotated off the front to the rear?

If they have always been on the rear, not sure what cause is, I don't think rear toe is adjustable, but not sure how both hubs woild be out of alignment in the same toe-in manner. If the axle was that far out of alignment, you would have outer wear on 1 tire and inner wear on the other.

Buckles 06-04-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Greydog (Post 1719329)
That looks like classic ezcessive toe-in on both front tires.

Were these rotated off the front to the rear?

If they have always been on the rear, not sure what cause is, I don't think rear toe is adjustable, but not sure how both hubs woild be out of alignment in the same toe-in manner. If the axle was that far out of alignment, you would have outer wear on 1 tire and inner wear on the other.

x2. It looks like these tires were on the front with a bad alignment. Not sure how you could manage to get that kind of where on the rear alone.

Sungod 06-04-2014 09:58 AM

There is no way that those have been on the rear the whole time. If so you have some serious damage back there.

Ukraine Train 06-04-2014 10:13 AM

Now you guys have me second guessing myself. I put these on at the same time I did FJ struts up front and I don't think I've had them off since then. I think I would have seen the same wear on the other two tires by now. The old tires I removed were mismatched front-rear but those rears were really worn out too.

netwon 06-04-2014 11:19 AM

If you have been keeping the tire pressure at 32 PSI then I would suspect they come from the front to the rear. I would have a reputable shop check out your alignment.

nevada 06-04-2014 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ukraine Train (Post 1719365)
Now you guys have me second guessing myself. I put these on at the same time I did FJ struts up front and I don't think I've had them off since then. I think I would have seen the same wear on the other two tires by now. The old tires I removed were mismatched front-rear but those rears were really worn out too.

have you ever taken it to a shop for any work?
sometimes they will rotate the tires if they notice the fronts are wearing bad, or if they are just due for a rotate. especially if the tires are already off for another reason.

I know here at the shop I have done that more than a few times.


edit: even though the rear isn't adjustable, you can still have it checked. maybe the housing is bent.

Ukraine Train 06-04-2014 01:15 PM

I've never had it to a shop. I think I should have the rear alignment checked to see what's up. Even if these were on the front, I had the alignment checked after doing the FJ springs and toe and camber were fine. They wanted to adjust caster but the adjusters are rusted solid.

preacher35 06-04-2014 01:20 PM

There is one other possibility: if the "toe" of his rear wheels is off, it could cause this kind of wear. If, his truck is leaning, it will cause the axle to sit ever-so-slightly off toe. I learned this yesterday, while getting my "post-Toytec-Ultimate-lift-install-alignment" completed. I had not installed the customary driver side spacer to offset the traditional 4th gen driver side "lean" and thus, caused the rear axle to be ever so slightly offset. My alignment guy said that installing the spacer (which I plan on doing this weekend), will remove most of the toe offset, which makes perfect sense. Either that, or I'm going to have to drop $320.00 on adjustable rear LCA's. Anyway, hope that helps.

KidVermicious 06-04-2014 01:20 PM

There is no alignment to check on the rear. There are no toe, camber, or caster adjustments to make. If those tires have been on the rear their entire life, then you probably have a bent axle. Has your truck ever been in a side impact?

preacher35 06-04-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KidVermicious (Post 1719565)
There is no alignment to check on the rear. There are no toe, camber, or caster adjustments to make. If those tires have been on the rear their entire life, then you probably have a bent axle. Has your truck ever been in a side impact?

I understand that the rear wheels cannot have "independent" toe (unless in the case of damage), HOWEVER, the axle can be sitting at an angle which affectively, causes a "toe issue": ie. one rear wheel will have positive toe and the other rear wheel will have negative toe. This is a fact. Experiment: if you place a jack under the rear left of your truck, jack up that one side, and measure the distance of your rear tire to the front lip of the correlating rear fender, then measure the distance of the other rear tire/fender relationship, you will find a change. I'm not saying that this is the case with the OP's vehicle... Just saying it is a possibility.


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