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FreshSeabass 09-12-2016 02:36 PM

- Bilstein 5160 Remote Resi 25-187700 3rd Gen-
 
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Looking to upgrade the rear shocks from my current setup (Bilstein 5125) for more travel as well as remote reservoir. I have always liked the 5160 however, I cannot determine the valving needed or if anyone has run these shocks.
Attachment 219146 these are part# 25-187700

These are the shocks and they come in three valving options. I will be running these with 851's as soon as my Badlands Rear bumper shows up and drawers installed.

Comments and criticisms are appreciated. If you recommend a different shock let me know. Looking for shocks in the 10-12" travel range

Peace. :usa2:

FreshSeabass 09-12-2016 02:43 PM

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These are the shocks described: http://www.shockwarehouse.com/images...0Generic37.jpg

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offroadxplr 09-12-2016 05:02 PM

Are you bumped down enough to fit a 16" compressed shock?

I know that even the Land Cruiser tokico's are only 14.5 compressed

That would be my only concern

FreshSeabass 09-12-2016 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by offroadxplr (Post 2468842)
Are you bumped down enough to fit a 16" compressed shock?

I know that even the Land Cruiser tokico's are only 14.5 compressed

That would be my only concern

I am bumped, I am looking into getting hydraulic bumps where the conical bumps go and extending the axle bumps a bit to compensate.

FreshSeabass 09-13-2016 02:42 PM

Bump. Anyone else had experience?

AssBurns 09-13-2016 11:26 PM

- Bilstein 5160 Remote Resi 25-187700 3rd Gen-
 
I'm running 255/70 and they are plenty soft with the used LC80 8.5 wraps. I would go at least 255/70 especially if you have any weight it the rear. I lowered mine from 250psi down to about 200psi. With too much weight they bottom out easy at that pressure. At 250psi they are fine with heavier loads though but not crazy stiff. I also didn't have to extend my bump stops because of the way I mounted them so I have more up travel than what you would have if you mount them in stock location. I would forsure go at 255/70 or even 360/80 if you want them a little stiffer or you have more weight in the rear (bumpers, spare tire, a bunch of tools, etc)


Also be aware that the collapsed length is pretty long for stock mounting location. You will have to extend your bump stops at least 3" I'd assume. Depending on how tall of springs you are running you might spit a coil at full extension with that long of a shock. Just my .02¢. If you can make it work great for your application then by all means go for it but from some experience, I wouldn't want to only a couple inches of up travel before I bottom out. The way I mounted my shocks (vertically) the compression ratios are pretty linear so they don't soften up throughout the compression cycle like they would if they were mounted angled like stock. So keep that in mind also when choosing your valving.

FreshSeabass 09-14-2016 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AssBurns (Post 2470151)
I'm running 255/70 and they are plenty soft with the used LC80 8.5 wraps. I would go at least 255/70 especially if you have any weight it the rear. I lowered mine from 250psi down to about 200psi. With too much weight they bottom out easy at that pressure. At 250psi they are fine with heavier loads though but not crazy stiff. I also didn't have to extend my bump stops because of the way I mounted them so I have more up travel than what you would have if you mount them in stock location. I would forsure go at 255/70 or even 360/80 if you want them a little stiffer or you have more weight in the rear (bumpers, spare tire, a bunch of tools, etc)

FINALLY!! Thanks for the input, I am building my own tube swingout tire carrier on an addicted Offroad tube rear bumper, 33x12.5 KM2, misc tools, 1st gen roll bar and cargo drawers so I am leaning towards 360/80. Also, I would like to run either OME 851's or 861's depending on how much weight I add up so, I don't think spitting a coil would be a problem I would encounter. Did you run the common frame mount, upper shock stud mount when you relocated? I've wanted to do this for a while in order to not have to struggle in a scenario where I'm reaching for that shock stud. I am also wanting to evenly distribute the weight on the shocks so a linear setup would be ideal.

AssBurns 09-14-2016 09:37 AM

Here is my build thread if you want to check out how I relocated my rear shock mounts. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-ge...ld-thread.html


Here is the thread I started when I was trying to figure out the best way to go with this project. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-ge...ck-mounts.html


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JayRolla 09-14-2016 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FreshSeabass (Post 2470325)
FINALLY!! Thanks for the input, I am building my own tube swingout tire carrier on an addicted Offroad tube rear bumper, 33x12.5 KM2, misc tools, 1st gen roll bar and cargo drawers so I am leaning towards 360/80. Also, I would like to run either OME 851's or 861's depending on how much weight I add up so, I don't think spitting a coil would be a problem I would encounter. Did you run the common frame mount, upper shock stud mount when you relocated? I've wanted to do this for a while in order to not have to struggle in a scenario where I'm reaching for that shock stud. I am also wanting to evenly distribute the weight on the shocks so a linear setup would be ideal.

I thought those OME coils give land cruisers 2.5" rear lift and installed on our rigs can give 5-6" lift. So you're likely to actually spit a coil if not bumped correctly or am I mistaken?

FreshSeabass 09-14-2016 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JayRolla (Post 2470411)
I thought those OME coils give land cruisers 2.5" rear lift and installed on our rigs can give 5-6" lift. So you're likely to actually spit a coil if not bumped correctly or am I mistaken?

Correct! I'm looking to extend my bump stops 3.5" and if my math is correct, I should have about 1 1/4 shock stanchion left at full bump. I am also running close to 400lbs at all times hence the heavy a** coils.

RomanSchnobrich 01-05-2019 10:07 PM

5160s Experience
 
For anyone else curious about Bilstein's 5160 rear remote reservoir shocks, I'm happy to share my experience so far. I recently noticed my OMEs squeaking obnoxiously over even the smallest bumps, and didn't seem to ride correctly after just 18 months of use. I started looking around at fancy rear shocks and quickly drooled over Icons, Kings, and Foxes, knowing damn well they're outta my price range. I stumbled upon the 5160s and was super interested right way but couldn't find any reviews on any forums or pages for them when applied to a 3rd gen. I went out on a limb and ordered a pair from Wheelers Offroad for about $400. Two months in and I couldn't be happier with them. I haven't been to Moab nor do I flex on a daily basis, but for a daily driver that sees trails and rough roads a few times a week, the 5160s have kicked ass so far.

Laith604 05-09-2019 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RomanSchnobrich (Post 3203491)
For anyone else curious about Bilstein's 5160 rear remote reservoir shocks, I'm happy to share my experience so far. I recently noticed my OMEs squeaking obnoxiously over even the smallest bumps, and didn't seem to ride correctly after just 18 months of use. I started looking around at fancy rear shocks and quickly drooled over Icons, Kings, and Foxes, knowing damn well they're outta my price range. I stumbled upon the 5160s and was super interested right way but couldn't find any reviews on any forums or pages for them when applied to a 3rd gen. I went out on a limb and ordered a pair from Wheelers Offroad for about $400. Two months in and I couldn't be happier with them. I haven't been to Moab nor do I flex on a daily basis, but for a daily driver that sees trails and rough roads a few times a week, the 5160s have kicked ass so far.

Just what i've been looking for! Which coils do you run with these?

RomanSchnobrich 05-12-2019 06:35 PM

Glad I could I help! I'm using the 5160s with OME 2890s, which are for a medium load. I typically carry around 100 lbs of camping and recovery gear and it's around 3.5" with that load.

repo 05-12-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RomanSchnobrich (Post 3287190)
Glad I could I help! I'm using the 5160s with OME 2890s, which are for a medium load. I typically carry around 100 lbs of camping and recovery gear and it's around 3.5" with that load.

Did you use the longer 4th gen 5160?

RomanSchnobrich 05-12-2019 09:44 PM

Nope, I used the ones designed for 3rd gens. I know it's nowhere near ideal as they're not designed for that much lift, but I've never cared much about achieving maximum flex.
Bilstein 5160 Remote Reservoir Rear Shock Set for 96-02 4Runner (25-268362 / 25-268379)


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