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New_2_4runners 10-16-2018 09:20 PM
Swapping Frames. No clue what I’m doing.
 
Hey all,
Just starting a thread to chronicle my frame swap. I’m not a car guy but this seemed fun so I bought 2 4runners for $500 each. One running but badly rusted frame and one parted out.

Here is the starting arrangement
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/1.JPG

The first order of business was to get the donor truck apart
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/2.JPG

Which was pretty easy
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/3.JPG

Then getting the frame picked clean
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/4.JPG

It’s for sale in Norfolk if you want it!
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/5.JPG

Clean frame
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/6.JPG

Johns06yota 10-16-2018 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by New_2_4runners (Post 3146612)
Hey all,
Just starting a thread to chronicle my frame swap. I’m not a car guy but this seemed fun so I bought 2 4runners for $500 each. One running but badly rusted frame and one parted out.

Here is the starting arrangement
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/1.JPG
I really look forward to this!

P40Wolf 10-16-2018 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by New_2_4runners (Post 3146612)
Hey all,
Just starting a thread to chronicle my frame swap. I’m not a car guy but this seemed fun so I bought 2 4runners for $500 each. One running but badly rusted frame and one parted out.

Here is the starting arrangement
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/1.JPG
Take the body off the hulk, clean up the frame, push to the side. Unplug/disconnect/ unbolt everything from body of complete 4Runner from frame and drivetrain. Tag and mark all connections so you don’t mix stuff or forget. Take frame with engine, trans and tcase, park next to good frame. Move all good drivetrain to good frame (I’d keep the rear axle in good frame there, housing is probably still good).

Take new frame with good drivetrain, push back under new body and put together. Hook up all connections again.

Start and season with pepper for effect.

New_2_4runners 10-16-2018 10:08 PM
Then I went on assignment at work for about 5 months while the frame sat out in the field.

Finally 2 weekends ago we got around to working on wire wheeling the frame
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/7.JPG

The time in the field had it pretty rough
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/8.JPG

The previous owner had cut out the tire winch
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/9.JPG

There comes a time in every frame’s life for a certain procedure
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/10.JPG

Degreased with POR15 degreaser
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/11.JPG

Then metal prepped and painted with POR15
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/12.JPG

Drying
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/13.JPG

All finished up
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/14.JPG

Inside until the next stage
http://steelnerve.com/4runner/15.JPG

New_2_4runners 10-16-2018 10:11 PM
Feel free to offer any tips, tricks, advice, or ‘wish I hads’! Hopefully in a few weeks it’ll be frame swap time.

Slowgoat 10-17-2018 06:53 AM
Impressive

Johns06yota 10-17-2018 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by New_2_4runners (Post 3146647)
Feel free to offer any tips, tricks, advice, or ‘wish I hads’! Hopefully in a few weeks it’ll be frame swap time.
Hey not sure if you did this or not but Eastwood makes an internal frame coating that blocks and goes over any rust. I’ve heard it works pretty well and may save your new frame from what happened to the other one

CookieRoe 10-17-2018 10:22 AM
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Very cool, good luck with the swap!

adkfinn 10-17-2018 11:26 AM
Did you top coat the POR-15? If you haven't, you should. It is meant to be painted over and is not UV stable and will fail over time when exposed to light/air/water/etc.

duffdog 10-17-2018 01:02 PM
I would paint that with appliance epoxy or the hardest possible paint I could find.

Terminator03 10-17-2018 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by adkfinn (Post 3146877)
Did you top coat the POR-15? If you haven't, you should. It is meant to be painted over and is not UV stable and will fail over time when exposed to light/air/water/etc.
This is quite true. It looks awesome as is, but it would be best to topcoat it wit some nice black acrylic enamel with hardner.

Jdevtac 10-17-2018 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by duffdog (Post 3146942)
I would paint that with appliance epoxy or the hardest possible paint I could find.
Yeah for all the work that went into it I would’ve picked an epoxy paint rather than por15. POR15 is for last ditch rust coat. It doesn’t like to stick long term to previous paint, clean metal, or the like. And people get mixed results even with metal prep on clean metal. I’d be scared it would start peeling in sheets down the road.

cooper30 10-17-2018 06:52 PM
Thank you for sharing

New_2_4runners 10-17-2018 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johns06yota (Post 3146795)
Hey not sure if you did this or not but Eastwood makes an internal frame coating that blocks and goes over any rust. I’ve heard it works pretty well and may save your new frame from what happened to the other one
Thanks, I do have 3 cans of it and plan to coat the inside of the frame

New_2_4runners 10-17-2018 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adkfinn (Post 3146877)
Did you top coat the POR-15? If you haven't, you should. It is meant to be painted over and is not UV stable and will fail over time when exposed to light/air/water/etc.
I’ve been getting mixed answers on that in my research so I haven’t decided yet if I’m going to top coat it.


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