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ATX4Yota 04-27-2019 01:07 PM

3rd gen gas gauge issue
 
I have an '02 Limited 2WD that just hit 260k. I haven't done anything to the truck in the last year other than oil changes, plugs/wires and replacing driveshaft u-joints. Haven't towed anything or been off-road.

About a week ago, I started the truck one morning and immediately noticed the low fuel light on and the fuel gauge didn't move from before starting. I probably had just over 1/2 a tank when starting the truck the previous evening and didn't drive anywhere near far enough to empty the tank. I drove to the gas station and put $15 (about 6 gallons) in the tank. The fuel gauge moved to just under 3/4 tank, which it wouldn't do if it was previously empty.

While driving, the gauge seems to be operating normally for the distances I'm driving. However, when I start the truck in the mornings, the gauge is always way below the level it should be. As I start driving, the gauge makes an very slow climb to where I think the level should be...usually takes about 5 minutes. I always let the truck warm up before I start driving.

I've read a few threads concerning fuel gauge issues but none really describe the issue I'm having. Any help would be greatly appreciated...

Toyotayoda 05-06-2019 11:28 PM

there is a small harness in the tank that could be the problem, you could do a resistance test of the sending unit before and after the harness to verify, but at the age and mileage I would consider if the gauge itself is the problem, maybe an Ebay, or junkyard part is the solution

SeaDug 05-07-2019 02:15 PM

I've had the same issue on a 2002 with 230k.

JWaldz 05-07-2019 04:00 PM

@ATX4Yota

It's a common issue, especially in the '99-'02 4Runners. My gauge did the same thing yours is doing and eventually all together quit working. It hasn't worked for years. There's a lot of literature out there regarding this issue. Do some googling!

bowrappyo 05-07-2019 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ATX4Yota (Post 3279208)
I have an '02 Limited 2WD that just hit 260k. I haven't done anything to the truck in the last year other than oil changes, plugs/wires and replacing driveshaft u-joints. Haven't towed anything or been off-road.

About a week ago, I started the truck one morning and immediately noticed the low fuel light on and the fuel gauge didn't move from before starting. I probably had just over 1/2 a tank when starting the truck the previous evening and didn't drive anywhere near far enough to empty the tank. I drove to the gas station and put $15 (about 6 gallons) in the tank. The fuel gauge moved to just under 3/4 tank, which it wouldn't do if it was previously empty.

While driving, the gauge seems to be operating normally for the distances I'm driving. However, when I start the truck in the mornings, the gauge is always way below the level it should be. As I start driving, the gauge makes an very slow climb to where I think the level should be...usually takes about 5 minutes. I always let the truck warm up before I start driving.

I've read a few threads concerning fuel gauge issues but none really describe the issue I'm having. Any help would be greatly appreciated...

Hey yeah. I am having the same issue. Some times it even comes back from the dead!

What I have learned is that it is a whole process to fix. There was a TSB about it.

Check that out here: https://www.toyota-4runner.org/1719005-post9.html

FWIW, I just run mine off miles now around 250 or so to keep it safe :)

gamefreakgc 05-07-2019 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowrappyo (Post 3284763)
Hey yeah. I am having the same issue. Some times it even comes back from the dead!

What I have learned is that it is a whole process to fix. There was a TSB about it.

Check that out here: https://www.toyota-4runner.org/1719005-post9.html

FWIW, I just run mine off miles now around 250 or so to keep it safe :)

Up here in NorCal they changed the fuel blend a few years back and knocked about 1.5 MPG's off my 4Runner! They have a minimum ethanol content now, just a heads up. I went from 300 miles to a tank if I completely emptied it, to just over 250 miles. Too scared to run it past 250 since the fuel change, it really starts to drop off quickly.

MaineRunna 05-07-2019 08:08 PM

It could be the gauge, but try to isolate it by unplugging the fuel pump under the back seat. You could check the resistance on the fuel gauge signal terminal coming out of the pump to see if its the fuel sender.

Mudeprived 05-08-2019 06:34 AM

250 is summer, 220 in winter.


Thats when I get gas. Fuel gauge on my truck is wack and not worth repairing.

Temple90 05-08-2019 11:00 AM

I have a similar issue that just started this week. Turn it on and guage goes to full. Start driving and it goes to empty. Not sure if I even want to get it fixed or not at this point.

FD7683 04-06-2021 07:07 PM

Mine just started dong this. Any advice on how to fix it? My orange light turned on twice - first in the gas station and 2nd time at the car wash when I fired it up again. This happens below half a tank of gas and I have a 2000 with 226k.

Vansnxtweek 04-06-2021 09:17 PM

Ugh mine has just started acting erratic as well.

Ron Burgandy 04-06-2021 10:01 PM

there was a guy that grounded out one of the wires coming off the fuel pump that fixed his problem. on youtube somewhere


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Outrider 04-13-2021 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Burgandy (Post 3624867)
there was a guy that grounded out one of the wires coming off the fuel pump that fixed his problem. on youtube somewhere


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Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNbMq7VvpdI

I did that yesterday, and after 2 or 3 fuel tanks, I will know if it accomplished anything. I don't drive mine that often, so 2 or 3 tanks will take a while. Sometimes my gauge works fine, sometimes it is a little flakey, and sometimes it goes full retard. Recently, my engine has died twice while the gauge showed 3/8 tank. I had intended to fill it up soon both times, and was actually on my way to do so, when it died. Fortunately, I was able to limp/coast to a fuel pump both times. I now know that at 300 miles, I must start looking for a gas station, because mine will die between 325-375 miles, unless the whole tank was on interstate and 65 mph or under.

I also re-calibrated my gauge after adding the ground wire. Not sure if that was needed, but figured it wouldn't hurt. I used this method:

EL010-99 Toyota Technical Service Bulletin

Once I know whether or not the ground wire fixed my problem, I intend to report back here on that. I do know that I would have been way past furious if I had pulled my fuel tank and replaced the sender unit, only to have the gauge problem persist. Adding the wire cost me nothing, except about 20 minutes of time, since I already had the wire, splice connector, lug, star washer and self-tapping sheet metal screw.

Mudeprived 04-13-2021 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outrider (Post 3627247)
Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNbMq7VvpdI

I did that yesterday, and after 2 or 3 fuel tanks, I will know if it accomplished anything. I don't drive mine that often, so 2 or 3 tanks will take a while. Sometimes my gauge works fine, sometimes it is a little flakey, and sometimes it goes full retard. Recently, my engine has died twice while the gauge showed 3/8 tank. I had intended to fill it up soon both times, and was actually on my way to do so, when it died. Fortunately, I was able to limp/coast to a fuel pump both times. I now know that at 300 miles, I must start looking for a gas station, because mine will die between 325-375 miles, unless the whole tank was on interstate and 65 mph or under.

I also re-calibrated my gauge after adding the ground wire. Not sure if that was needed, but figured it wouldn't hurt. I used this method:

EL010-99 Toyota Technical Service Bulletin

Once I know whether or not the ground wire fixed my problem, I intend to report back here on that. I do know that I would have been way past furious if I had pulled my fuel tank and replaced the sender unit, only to have the gauge problem persist. Adding the wire cost me nothing, except about 20 minutes of time, since I already had the wire, splice connector, lug, star washer and self-tapping sheet metal screw.

I would love to get that kind of mileage. I have to fill up by 240 miles or it runs dry.

My gauge has been in full retard mode the past month or so, dropping to E and flashing when it feels like it. I had it in for inspection two years ago and the mechanic said it was the gauge when I asked about it. At that time it was just reading Full to Half. He offered to fix it but I declined and just followed the miles.

FD7683 05-25-2021 05:48 PM

I hope splicing the ground on mine will fix the issue because my truck was severely sputtering today and the gauge showed to be around 3/4th of gas and no orange light. I know it had zero gas on the tank - it's kinda a shame my VIN is included in the TSB.


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