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Ryan at Eibach 08-13-2019 05:50 PM

Eibach needs a stock TRD PRO in SoCal
 
Let the front spring development begin! I'm kick starting this project for you guys myself.

I need your stock 2018+ Pro for a full day to measure in the next few weeks. Once the prototypes are complete I'll bring it back in and leave a set on your rig for free.

Who's in?

Ryan

NW.OH.T4R 08-13-2019 07:58 PM

Wish I was in SoCal, or even within a day’s drive.


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M_RED 08-14-2019 01:26 AM

Ahh!! Seattle is too far away... but I have a 2019 TRD Pro you could have if you were up here...

20164runner 09-12-2019 06:33 PM

Bump


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Sparman 09-12-2019 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach (Post 3338236)
Let the front spring development begin! I'm kick starting this project for you guys myself.

I need your stock 2018+ Pro for a full day to measure in the next few weeks. Once the prototypes are complete I'll bring it back in and leave a set on your rig for free.

Who's in?

Ryan

I'm in. 2018 Pro.

Curt

MGordo 09-13-2019 10:26 AM

They need a 2019 with Fox Suspension....and I believe they already found one.

Flea7907 09-25-2019 11:10 PM

Any updates

AMLOR 09-26-2019 09:34 PM

Patience my son....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flea7907 (Post 3362013)
Any updates

Ryan is good people. that said, if Eibach is going to put their name on this setup for us FOX guys, they are going to do it right. Getting the engineering right will take some time and then some "beta testing".
While I would love this new spring set to be ready for Christmas...I can wait until it is "correct" and if that takes until next spring, so be it.:cheers:

Flea7907 10-18-2019 11:20 PM

I was told it would be another 10 weeks or so. I just hope there are both longer and stronger spring options.

Johnnyg182 12-02-2019 08:55 PM

I’d be interested as well for my 19 pro. Want something that will net 2/1 or 2/1.5 vs stock. I’m new to this so I don’t completely understand pros and cons of these springs (specs TBD) vs Cornfed spacer kits.

I’m staying tuned here. I think I can live with stock heights for a few more months but I’m getting eager to make a change.

Ryan at Eibach 12-03-2019 12:27 PM

Hey Fellas,

I posted in the other thread that I need a stock PRO fix Fox shocks to get a couple measurements. Gets you free korean bbq and a set of springs when they are complete. Can somebody local swing by?

ProLee 12-03-2019 12:40 PM

Wish I was closer....had the day off too.:mad2:

osideplayer 12-15-2019 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach (Post 3402481)
Hey Fellas,

I posted in the other thread that I need a stock PRO fix Fox shocks to get a couple measurements. Gets you free korean bbq and a set of springs when they are complete. Can somebody local swing by?

Hey Ryan a little off topic, but do you know if the TRD fox shocks have different perch settings? I have a set of fully assembled TRD fox shocks, but I am scared to take them apart in order to find out...

If you want I can leave the shocks with you, if it gets me a set of coils later? I live here in San Clemente, not too far. I'd leave my rig with you, but I have a TEP w/ KDSS, so not really what you are looking for.

ProLee 01-06-2020 03:09 PM

Ryan,

any updates on these springs?

MGordo 01-06-2020 04:46 PM

From the Eibach Lift thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach (Post 3418250)
PRO spring update:

To ensure the Fox shocks really work to their true capability we're only going to be able to lift the front about 1.8". This would make the front and rear level, which looks great on a PRO. Also, if you like the factory rake, you could always add our 1" rear spring.

No UCA needed.

Thoughts?


Ryan at Eibach 01-06-2020 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osideplayer (Post 3409534)
Hey Ryan a little off topic, but do you know if the TRD fox shocks have different perch settings? I have a set of fully assembled TRD fox shocks, but I am scared to take them apart in order to find out...

They only have one setting.

Update on the springs:

To ensure the Fox shocks really work to their true capability we're only going to be able to lift the front about 1.8". This would make the front and rear level, which looks great on a PRO. Also, if you like the factory rake, you could always add our 1" rear spring.

No UCA needed.

Pricing TBD, but they will not be expensive at all, and a much better solution than spacers.

ProLee 01-06-2020 04:52 PM

Ryan,

thanks for all your help, will be waiting for the part number on these springs. Almost pulled the trigger on the spacers but didn't rally want to go that route, forgot to check your other thread for your updates. Any ETA on release date?

Steel28 01-06-2020 07:39 PM

This is great news Ryan! Let us know the pricing and release date :).

osideplayer 01-06-2020 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach (Post 3419773)
They only have one setting.

Update on the springs:

To ensure the Fox shocks really work to their true capability we're only going to be able to lift the front about 1.8". This would make the front and rear level, which looks great on a PRO. Also, if you like the factory rake, you could always add our 1" rear spring.

No UCA needed.

Pricing TBD, but they will not be expensive at all, and a much better solution than spacers.

Thank you for the reply.

Is this 1.8 inch Taller than a stock TRD pro, so essentially 2.8 inches taller than stock SR5?

Availability?

Ryan at Eibach 01-06-2020 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osideplayer (Post 3419916)
Is this 1.8 inch lift total over stock? The TRD pro already has an inch lift, so total 2.8 inches?

No. This is 1.8" of lift on a PRO.

adrummingdude 01-06-2020 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach (Post 3419918)
No. This is 1.8" of lift on a PRO.

Thanks Ryan. To clarify (and I think what the other poster’s question is), these springs will lift a Pro 1.8 additional inches, bringing the total lift to ~2.8” compared to a stock SR5. Correct?

If so, I know a lot of guys with a 3” front lift are running aftermarket upper control arms to be able to get their castor in spec, and many of them are also dropping their front diff. However, I don’t know if the control arms on the Fox outfitted Pro are already different than the other trim level trucks.

I really would like a set of these springs as I’ve had Eibach drop springs in the past and have liked them a lot... but If it’s going to come along with a new rabbit hole I’m not so sure.

Ryan at Eibach 01-06-2020 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrummingdude (Post 3419928)
Thanks Ryan. To clarify (and I think what the other poster’s question is), these springs will lift a Pro 1.8 additional inches, bringing the total lift to ~2.8” compared to a stock SR5. Correct?

If so, I know a lot of guys with a 3” front lift are running aftermarket upper control arms to be able to get their castor in spec, and many of them are also dropping their front diff. However, I don’t know if the control arms on the Fox outfitted Pro are already different than the other trim level trucks.

I really would like a set of these springs as I’ve had Eibach drop springs in the past and have liked them a lot... but If it’s going to come along with a new rabbit hole I’m not so sure.

I know exactly what he’s asking and I’m trying not to answer it and confuse everybody. There’s just no reason to compare it to non-PRO. You’re already getting worried about arms because of it even though I said upper arms are not needed ;)

Everything you are concerned about is checked during our R&D process. If you need arms, diff drop, etc etc it will absolutely be mentioned waaaaay in advance. For 1.8” of lift it’s not necessary.

Hope that helps

adrummingdude 01-07-2020 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach (Post 3420029)
I know exactly what he’s asking and I’m trying not to answer it and confuse everybody. There’s just no reason to compare it to non-PRO. You’re already getting worried about arms because of it even though I said upper arms are not needed ;)

Everything you are concerned about is checked during our R&D process. If you need arms, diff drop, etc etc it will absolutely be mentioned waaaaay in advance. For 1.8” of lift it’s not necessary.

Hope that helps

Thank you Ryan, that does help.

In my experience Eibach has always been a stand-up company with great products, and I appreciate your willingness to engage with customers/enthusiasts as part of your process.

osideplayer 01-07-2020 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach (Post 3420029)
I know exactly what he’s asking and I’m trying not to answer it and confuse everybody. There’s just no reason to compare it to non-PRO. You’re already getting worried about arms because of it even though I said upper arms are not needed ;)

Everything you are concerned about is checked during our R&D process. If you need arms, diff drop, etc etc it will absolutely be mentioned waaaaay in advance. For 1.8” of lift it’s not necessary.

Hope that helps

Thanks for intentionally avoiding to answer my question.

20164runner 01-07-2020 11:39 PM

Eibach needs a stock TRD PRO in SoCal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by osideplayer (Post 3420493)
Thanks for intentionally avoiding to answer my question.



He answered you. It’s 1.8” or 1” higher than the pro set up.


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Tuco Ramirez 01-08-2020 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osideplayer (Post 3420493)
Thanks for intentionally avoiding to answer my question.

You’re not very bright, are you?

M_RED 01-08-2020 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach (Post 3419773)
They only have one setting.

Update on the springs:

To ensure the Fox shocks really work to their true capability we're only going to be able to lift the front about 1.8". This would make the front and rear level, which looks great on a PRO. Also, if you like the factory rake, you could always add our 1" rear spring.

No UCA needed.

Pricing TBD, but they will not be expensive at all, and a much better solution than spacers.

Please hurry up and take my money! I'd like to keep the factory rake, I think the truck needs that caster up front to not wander and tramline on the freeway so much.

I'll do the 1.8 up front and 1 in the rear please!

osideplayer 01-08-2020 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuco Ramirez (Post 3420750)
You’re not very bright, are you?

“I’m trying not to answer” From Ryan to me.

He admitted to avoiding a question, I replied to him. End of story. No insults are needed.

osideplayer 01-08-2020 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 20164runner (Post 3420644)
He answered you. It’s 1.8” or 1” higher than the pro set up.


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You misread, it’s 2.8 total over a stock SR5. The pro is already an inch taller. Thess coils are exclusively for pros. Giving them a 1.8 inch increase ( 2.8 inches Total taller than stock)

Edited for clarification

Ryan at Eibach 01-08-2020 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osideplayer (Post 3420780)
You misread, it’s 2.8 total over stock as a pro is already an inch taller. This coils are exclusively for pros. Giving them a 1.8 inch increase ( 2.8 inches Total taller than stock)

No offense, but you are completely confusing everybody. As I was reading your latest post I took a call from a PRO owner who read it and was confused.

Most of us know what you are getting at, but you just stated "2.8 inches taller than stock". Everybody with a PRO that does not have any mods is going to call it "stock". My post even said "Eibach needs a stock PRO".

Can we get a mod to clean all this up?

Again, the Eibach specific PRO spring upgrade will lift a TRD PRO 1.8". They will not work on a non-PRO.

LandCruiser 01-08-2020 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach (Post 3420823)
No offense, but you are completely confusing everybody. As I was reading your latest post I took a call from a PRO owner who read it and was confused.

Most of us know what you are getting at, but you just stated "2.8 inches taller than stock". Everybody with a PRO that does not have any mods is going to call it "stock". My post even said "Eibach needs a stock PRO".

Can we get a mod to clean all this up?

Again, the Eibach specific PRO spring upgrade will lift a TRD PRO 1.8". They will not work on a non-PRO.

I think because Toyota modifies them at port and they are pseudo-stock, but I get the confusion.

20164runner 01-08-2020 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osideplayer (Post 3420780)
You misread, it’s 2.8 total over stock as a pro is already an inch taller. This coils are exclusively for pros. Giving them a 1.8 inch increase ( 2.8 inches Total taller than stock)



1.8” would make it level so no i didn’t misread it.


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Steel28 01-08-2020 01:49 PM

@Ryan, when can we order?:smokin:

Flea7907 01-14-2020 09:44 AM

So 285s should be good to go with the extra 1.8? When can we order.

Ryan at Eibach 01-14-2020 11:41 AM

I'll have the first 10 pieces ready in about a week. We'll do a quick day of testing shortly after. If all goes as planned they'll get released for actual production and we'll make 150 kits. At that point they can be ordered and we'll have a good ETA.

MGordo 01-14-2020 12:19 PM

Great! Just let us know when the order can be placed.
Make any difference with ordering throught the local retailer vs direct? Guessing the product wouldnt be listed in the catalogue yet.

Ryan at Eibach 01-14-2020 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGordo (Post 3424294)
Great! Just let us know when the order can be placed.
Make any difference with ordering throught the local retailer vs direct? Guessing the product wouldnt be listed in the catalogue yet.

You'll be able to order from any Eibach dealer, but nobody will have these in their catalog until they actually hit stock here at Eibach.

fasteddy904 02-08-2020 03:08 PM

Are there any pictures floating around with these front spring changes, either 1" or 1.8" on the TRD Pro?

DallasTRDPro 02-08-2020 04:51 PM

Subbed. I planned on staying stock and adding some 265 KO2's, but with this development I might go with these and go to 285's especially if no other mods are needed like CA's. This will also alter my roof rack plans.

D4Krunner 02-11-2020 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach (Post 3424338)
You'll be able to order from any Eibach dealer, but nobody will have these in their catalog until they actually hit stock here at Eibach.

Any updates or ETA?


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