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Toyota Land Cruiser dead in the U.S. after 2022?
From Jonny Lieberman of Motor Trend:
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That's going to really suck if Toyota really does kill off one of the best engineered vehicles it has ever made. :sobbing: |
Exiting the US market isn't killing it off. I do agree that poor marketing is the biggest issue. Look at all the people willing to shell out $40k for a jeep!
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If this is true… Ill probably buy a 200 series LC before 2022.
Honestly if they just offered these things in a trim other than fully loaded I could see more people buying them to use in an environment they would thrive in. Personally I would love something a bit more bare bones to off-road… maybe not cranker window level, but a bit 4th Gen SR5 seems about right to me. Something without the sting of a fully loaded luxury trim because it’s a lot of coin to beat on. |
I have no issues taking my 4R off road and risking whatever happens to it but a LC I'd think twice.
And I think for the price most go with the GX or LX for pavement pounding. |
Bumbo has a point...
As many have seen in online reviews, the Aussie's get a lower trimmed LC, with a lot less luxury stuff...for about half the price, and they use it as it was intended, and keep selling it year after year. But they are lucky, they also get the 70-series LC's also. you sell a lesser trim to the US market, and people like me, and many others, who passed on the Lux and bought a T4R, will think about buying a LC for its over-engineer'd longevity and dependability as that family car you keep for a decade or so. If i am able, i know the only next-car that i am going to buy will be a Toy LC. Other than that, im keeping my 4Runner for the duration. |
I had and maintained a 2000 LX470, awesome platform, and my 2013 4runner is a better machine, only less headroom. My sister has a new LX and it‘s ridiculous. Guess they are going after the chevy suburban crowd.
My uneducated assumption is GX470 is a v8 4runner. When I travel in asia and europe they are called Landcruiser Prado with diesel engine. |
Hmmmm...that 2020 TLC Heritage Edition sure looks good............
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It's too damn expensive. We aren't even allowed to buy the lower trim model since in the US 4x4 capability and big size are somehow synonymous with luxury.
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The level of ridiculousness rivals the Tacoma and drum brakes! |
The problem at its price point is you have other interesting options, perhaps not as off-road capable, but you have options. Considering most people buying something like this probably won’t push it THAT hard off-road, the other options become tempting and capable enough.
That said, I feel it’s all relative… The 4Runner IMO is a very wise money responsible purchase. You could buy something a lot less reliable or maintenance heavy that increases the total cost of ownership in the same price range. If your first pick was a G Wagon, then the LC might be your responsible money wise budget purchase. Stealth wealth at its finest. |
When we bought the GX,(mistake) we were told that all of the LC/LX's could be sold at sitcker plus. And they could not get enough of them to satisfy demand. So why offer a cheaper version? But certainly bad to hear it won't be available anymore. Probably doesn't meet U.S. emission or gas mileage standards. I think those new rules will kill many vehicles we love.
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Regarding Lieberman's quote: "The hell!?! I've had a few people tell me that the move from Los Angeles to Dallas broke Toyota USA's culture. This dumb decision-killing Land Cruiser!-is proof."
Toyota for sure is no longer the car company they once were, and I mean that in a bad way too (especially for die hard Japanese vehicle enthusiasts). This is quite evident over at Supraforums.com . There was also a rumor that the next 4Runner could be made from another platform (BMW)? Who knows how accurate that rumor is, but given what I see with their sports cars, entry level economy cars and their general culture/priority shift over the last 2 decades, it wouldn't surprise me. |
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