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hinmo24t 01-11-2020 10:17 PM

Tore a cv boot wheeling today
 
Hey, might have misphrased that...i had a missing clip on my inner boot of main axle on pass side 6 mos ago but must have not got it tight enough or proper. Apparently today wheeling something happened I lost what looks like a lot of grease. They were chainsawing trail ahead of me and maybe a stick pushed it or broke the boot. I think i have oem axles and dont hear any clicking and theres no movement when i shake it by hand. Going to bring it to shop by mid week and maybe put 100 miles of under 50 mph on it until then.

I feel like this shop tries upcharging a bit and hes going to want to put new cv axle in instead of just the boot...everytime I have a brake issue I pay $300-$500 for example because he wont jist change pads or caliper that seized. I might be an accountant but ive quadded and wheeled etc my whole life moderately. Since I think axles are fine should I have him just reboot them? Maybe I'll buy the $80 oem boot kit now express ship? Not sure he can get oem boot quickly (time is big factor) or hes going to want to put an aftermarlet axle in...i wheel the truck often. Any aftermarket decent boots? Moog etc? Advice...?

Tomorrow I'll ziptie if theres no tear or duct tape but seems in my searching I'll ne okay to run this a week or 100 miles or so? I lost a damn lot of the grease today. My commute is minimal luckily but bday dinner tomorrow 30 miles round trip. Its the inner boot.

Thanks

81runner 01-11-2020 10:19 PM

Pack it with some axle grease and put a hose clamp on it. Should be fine until you can reboot or replace the axle...

xtremewlr 01-11-2020 10:21 PM

You'll be fine.

Pro tip: Learn how to do your own work.

I just replaced both torn inner CV boots on my 4R today. Took a while but they are good to go and cost me $121 shipped for the boots. Comes with everything you need and they have directions online. Just need to get CV clamp pliers which run about $35.

https://photos.smugmug.com/2003-4Run..._111707-X4.jpg

hinmo24t 01-11-2020 10:29 PM

I like wrenching on stuff amd have with cars and a lot of my mods but contemplating getting a daily soon w this wheeling hobby. Then i can learn amd save $ on issues like this.

I replaced blinker bulb before I went today haha

Thanks for advice guys

montijo505 01-11-2020 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtremewlr (Post 3422834)
You'll be fine.

Pro tip: Learn how to do your own work.

I just replaced both torn inner CV boots on my 4R today. Took a while but they are good to go and cost me $121 shipped for the boots. Comes with everything you need and they have directions online. Just need to get CV clamp pliers which run about $35.

https://photos.smugmug.com/2003-4Run..._111707-X4.jpg



This.

It only takes a couple hours to reboot an axle and most of that is removing/replacing the axle itself.

I have had good luck ordering the OEM boot kits off eBay for less than the stealership wants.

Get GOOD cv band pliers. I immediately bent and broke the cheap ones I bought at oreilly. I got them at NAPA and they are way beefier and I don’t see them breaking for their intended use. NAPA also sells better clamps than come with the kit. Grab a couple as you will break one of the dumb bend over clamps.

I watched this tutorial, long but very informative.

https://youtu.be/vcCT4UgFUTw

As for driving the rig with the boot torn, don’t worry about it. Less than a hundred miles won’t hurt anything. Just try to keep the dirt out of it with some tape or something.




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hinmo24t 01-11-2020 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montijo505 (Post 3422842)
This.

It only takes a couple hours to reboot an axle and most of that is removing/replacing the axle itself.

I have had good luck ordering the OEM boot kits off eBay for less than the stealership wants.

Get GOOD cv band pliers. I immediately bent and broke the cheap ones I bought at oreilly. I got them at NAPA and they are way beefier and I don’t see them breaking for their intended use. NAPA also sells better clamps than come with the kit. Grab a couple as you will break one of the dumb bend over clamps.

I watched this tutorial, long but very informative.

https://youtu.be/vcCT4UgFUTw

As for driving the rig with the boot torn, don’t worry about it. Less than a hundred miles won’t hurt anything. Just try to keep the dirt out of it with some tape or something.




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Thanks...ill check it out. I got decent pliers for the clips but dont think i got it tight enough. I remember pinching the clip and it grabbed notches as I pinched it...not tight enough i guess. The boot jist slip when i check it on trail today and greased poured into my hand. Had already flung everywhere before that too. Good call on the dirt and time I have to get it fixed ill look to patch something tomorrow.

With how much i wheel hope he can get some good boot on there if not oem etc and this doesnt happen again soon...i need heavy jack stands and a daily soon lmao

Ran into the EP today out there and he was cool then I ironically dump grease all over the trails lmao. MA is so yag w wheeling. My typical spot near home its kosher though. Karma got me today

little_titan 01-12-2020 11:02 AM

The red boots you have on the axle are they stronger material than oem and less likely to tear?

If so, can you please share a link? Hopefully, you had good experience with them in the past.

Thanks


Quote:

Originally Posted by xtremewlr (Post 3422834)
You'll be fine.

Pro tip: Learn how to do your own work.

I just replaced both torn inner CV boots on my 4R today. Took a while but they are good to go and cost me $121 shipped for the boots. Comes with everything you need and they have directions online. Just need to get CV clamp pliers which run about $35.

https://photos.smugmug.com/2003-4Run..._111707-X4.jpg


hinmo24t 01-12-2020 11:25 AM

I have some somber news...i went out to put a bag on the boot and realized it is clicking and moving bad now. I bought the 4runner before realizong my house was super close to harsh legal wheeling and that id take it up as a hobby with my dog and girls and think I might have an aftermarlet cv put in and sell the truck for a bit more than i paid for it a year and a half ago. I need solid front axle grandpa XJ I think for this hobby. My only other thought is oem toyota CV but with wheeling every weekend, the rocky nature of the trails I do (harsh not rock crawling) it might be smart. I even felt a tiny click or movement on the other cv a minute ago too. Oem cvs installed $2500ish?? I cant risk that. Too bad. I love the truck but ive had 3 seized brakes and now need both axles I think. 140k miles. Billy old man emu lift 33s rock sliders and tire carrier now...clean frame I paid $7300 might look to get $8500 down to $7500 and find a grandpa XJ stock to work on or maybe a wrangler.

Edit: im strongly considering oem toyota axles. Anyone think fresh oem toyota CVs in theory will handle wheeling on a weekly basis? Serious investment but might go that route vs time in selling and buying and modding a jeep. I know theres a step up from toyota axles but theyre way more coin...

xtremewlr 01-12-2020 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by little_titan (Post 3422969)
The red boots you have on the axle are they stronger material than oem and less likely to tear?

If so, can you please share a link? Hopefully, you had good experience with them in the past.

Thanks

First time using these but I have seen good reviews on the Tacoma forums about them. They are actually orange.

High Angle Inner CV Boot - Products - Off Road Solutions

hinmo24t 01-12-2020 01:45 PM

Anyone have a link to oem cv axles assemblies? I might buy one or two of them to hopefully not deal w this again or get rid of the truck. Thanks.

hinmo24t 01-12-2020 01:50 PM

The $362 option i see here?
Front Axle for 2004 Toyota 4Runner | Toyota OEM Direct

eleven14 01-12-2020 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hinmo24t (Post 3423055)
Anyone have a link to oem cv axles assemblies? I might buy one or two of them to hopefully not deal w this again or get rid of the truck. Thanks.

Are the ones you're replacing OEM? I'd get OEM/CVJ/etc. replacements and re-boot the ones currently on the truck assuming they're salvageable, as spares.

I had a local shop replace my OEM CVs with NAPA (it's what they could get) and asked for the blown ones back to re-boot for next time. Was relatively cheap and no issues with the replacements, though I'm fully expecting them to fail quicker than OEM.

Also, if you're on the original CVs and have lifted/modified recently, it likely accelerated the boot failure. Sounds like you've made good progress on your build so I'd consider all the options before jumping ship to a new platform with it's own issues.

Drift Monkey 01-12-2020 02:45 PM

Napa MaxDrive (new) with the lifetime warranty and rebuild the stockers.

hinmo24t 01-12-2020 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleven14 (Post 3423070)
Are the ones you're replacing OEM? I'd get OEM/CVJ/etc. replacements and re-boot the ones currently on the truck assuming they're salvageable, as spares.

I had a local shop replace my OEM CVs with NAPA (it's what they could get) and asked for the blown ones back to re-boot for next time. Was relatively cheap and no issues with the replacements, though I'm fully expecting them to fail quicker than OEM.

Also, if you're on the original CVs and have lifted/modified recently, it likely accelerated the boot failure. Sounds like you've made good progress on your build so I'd consider all the options before jumping ship to a new platform with it's own issues.

Good advice. I have a 2.5ish lift and yeah good call. Id rather spend a bit more now than deal w this anytime soon again and i get on the trails enough to not want aftermarket napa etc. I might scoop the oem setups just hoping theres no hidden costs w presenting them to a local mechanic.

Can someone confirm the linked assembly?

I only owen this truck a few years not sure whats in there is oem but i think they are at 135k and nothing in toyota service history about them. Small click on better side right now...might as well do both sides?

hinmo24t 01-12-2020 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drift Monkey (Post 3423077)
Napa MaxDrive (new) with the lifetime warranty and rebuild the stockers.

Thanks...im going to be charged to have these installed everytime as i dont plan to do the work myself anytime soon so i have to factor that in


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