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ptsailing 03-12-2020 02:46 PM

Front Control arm kit
 
Does anyone make a total Front Control Arm(s) replacement kit? My rig has 290k on the clock and original bushings and suspension. I want to replace the lot, upper and lower control arms and ball joints with all the bushings already in place.

Is there a kit that comes with everything that is under $400 or so? I found this kit that is pretty spot on but not sure where the parts are coming from or who manufactures them

1996-02 Toyota 4Runner Front Steering & Suspension Kit 12 Piece Set

What other "kit" options are there for someone that does not want to go blow the budget on a full custom set up. I am leaning towards kits that have rubber bushings as opposed to Poly.

(Fyi my rig is set up for a weekend warrior, more "built" than a daily driver but it wont be in the Dakar or Baja 1000 antyime soon

RandyBobandy 03-12-2020 03:05 PM

The lower ball joint scared me too much to go with anything other than oem, and the bushings in aftermarket control arms suck, so if you do get aftermarket arms I would replace the bushings with either oem or poly so you don’t end up doing the job again.

I have poly bushings in all my oem control arms front and rear and really like them, but the front lowers are a huge pain to do if you have any rust at all, the rear arms are easy to do

I have uniball UCAs but if I didn’t I’d put poly bushings in them as well with an oem ball joint

UnderFire 03-12-2020 03:36 PM

You'll be able to get better quality bushings on a budget by installing new bushings into your current control arms.

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mesooohoppy 03-12-2020 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderFire (Post 3457322)
You'll be able to get better quality bushings on a budget by installing new bushings into your current control arms.

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this! if your rig has never been in an accident or isnt a rust bucket, your arms are fine. its the balljoints and the bushings that are worn out.

as Randy said, only buy OEM front lower ball joints. you will also need new bolts.

AZBub 03-12-2020 07:04 PM

Front Control arm kit
 
don’t buy that garbage ebay crap. it’s been said over and over and over, people don’t listen, they buy that crap and then complain that it lasted 3k miles if they survive.


FWIW if it’s a “kit” generally steer clear unless it’s full blown aftermarket performance stuff like total chaos etc.

Buy Toyota Lower ball joints, outer tie rod, inner tie rods from Camelback Toyota so you know they aren’t knock off parts. You can get away with Moog, Proforge, Napa upper ball joints BUT while you have it apart just replace the UCAs with JBA arms (well built, american made, and VERY affordable). The lower arms you can either press in Factory Toyota bushings or go the Whiteline route.


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ptsailing 03-13-2020 12:45 AM

What is my best option if I dont have access to a press and want to keep the time and cost down (under $400 for the whole job).....

ptsailing 03-13-2020 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AZBub (Post 3457409)
don’t buy that garbage ebay crap. it’s been said over and over and over, people don’t listen, they buy that crap and then complain that it lasted 3k miles if they survive.


FWIW if it’s a “kit” generally steer clear unless it’s full blown aftermarket performance stuff like total chaos etc.

Buy Toyota Lower ball joints, outer tie rod, inner tie rods from Camelback Toyota so you know they aren’t knock off parts. You can get away with Moog, Proforge, Napa upper ball joints BUT while you have it apart just replace the UCAs with JBA arms (well built, american made, and VERY affordable). The lower arms you can either press in Factory Toyota bushings or go the Whiteline route.


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JBA does not have arms for the 3rd gen....and anyway they are way out of my budget

UnderFire 03-13-2020 03:37 AM

Whiteline LCA bushings ready to drop in, only require a handheld torch, hammer, maybe a bottle jack if they're stubborn, but no press needed. I'd assume the same goes for the UCA bushings but I'm not 100% sure.

Lower ball joints you can afford OEM in your price range, bolt on piece.

Upper ball joints are easy enough, just decent quality ones are fine. Local parts stores rent out ball joint presses so you may want to buy the ball joints from them to rent the tool.

Overall you should barely scrape by under your $400 mark, assuming you're doing all of the work, and you'll have all parts that will last.

If your truck is crusty, or has high mileage, it will be super easy to run into hurdles along the way though, siezed alignment cams are $30 a piece and a wait or spendy from the dealerships, broken sway bar links, clapped outer tie rod ends, bad lower strut bushings, etc. All real possibilities that will 100% put you past the amount of time and money it sounds like you want to spend.

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VernySanders 03-13-2020 08:35 AM

More Information for MEVOTECH KIT15

I thought about using this in the past but ive never done the research on the oem stuff. I decided shortly after finding this front end kit that id go all aftermarket longtravel.

EDIT: The upper and lower balljoints are greaseable with a zerk fitting on these Mevotechs. Seem pretty solid, I doubt they would fail you. BUT as previously stated ive never needed to do a balljoint on my truck nor have I researched it in any way.

Bad Luck 03-13-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ptsailing (Post 3457557)
JBA does not have arms for the 3rd gen....and anyway they are way out of my budget

JBA STD High Caster Upper A-arms for 1996-2004 Toyota Tacoma They do make them but the are $460

AZBub 03-13-2020 09:32 AM

Front Control arm kit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ptsailing (Post 3457555)
What is my best option if I dont have access to a press and want to keep the time and cost down (under $400 for the whole job).....



Get a second job. Just Toyota lower ball joints will be over 200 for a set. You will not get it fixed right for a 400 budget. That’s just not realistic. not even close.


At a BARE minimum replace the lower ball joints with factory toyota parts. That’s the area of a 3rd gen 4runner that is documented more on the internet than COVID-19. the Lower Ball joints.


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ptsailing 03-13-2020 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Luck (Post 3457644)

Very SEXY!!!! Wish it was in my budget.

ptsailing 03-13-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AZBub (Post 3457655)
Get a second job. Just Toyota lower ball joints will be over 200 for a set. You will not get it fixed right for a 400 budget. That’s just not realistic. not even close.


At a BARE minimum replace the lower ball joints with factory toyota parts. That’s the area of a 3rd gen 4runner that is documented more on the internet than COVID-19. the Lower Ball joints.


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2nd job.....I already work 3 jobs.....if you can find an extra 8 to 10 hours in the day I would gladly. Wife and I agreed on what the budget for this repair should be based on our monthly family budget. LIFE my friend....some how she is a cruel mistress that always seems to get in the way of having fun. Somehow I have to find the time to do all the work myself to keep the project under budget because science determined there were NOT 34 hrs in a day.


I do like the lower ball joint suggestion....I will certainly heed your advice!

ptsailing 03-13-2020 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ptsailing (Post 3457759)
2nd job.....I already work 3 jobs.....if you can find an extra 8 to 10 hours in the day I would gladly. Wife and I agreed on what the budget for this repair should be based on our monthly family budget. LIFE my friend....some how she is a cruel mistress that always seems to get in the way of having fun. Somehow I have to find the time to do all the work myself to keep the project under budget because science determined there were NOT 34 hrs in a day.


I do like the lower ball joint suggestion....I will certainly heed your advice!

I wanted an unlimited budget to repair the "Beast" and she wanted to only spend $400....so we compromised.....I am going to spend $400

ptsailing 03-13-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderFire (Post 3457585)
If your truck is crusty, or has high mileage, it will be super easy to run into hurdles along the way though, siezed alignment cams are $30 a piece and a wait or spendy from the dealerships, broken sway bar links, clapped outer tie rod ends, bad lower strut bushings, etc. All real possibilities that will 100% put you past the amount of time and money it sounds like you want to spend.

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Truck is fine....it did 200k in Arizona and I put another 90k on the clock in California so fortunately there is not a single spot of rust on the whole truck.


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