Regearing my SR5. Will I regret not adding rear air locker?
Just wondering if there is anyone out there that has re-geared a SR5, and didn’t opt for the air locker since everything was open? Getting my 4.56’s installed this week and I’m having second thoughts on the locker.
I live in an area where there’s no real chance of rock crawling. Just some good ol mud, and rocky terrain in the mtns. I’ve always been a guy that says ‘go big or go home’ but with work being dead lately I was nervous about spending another 2grand on that. But right now I’m thinking I might regret it down the road... |
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I bought my 2018 with the OEM E-Locker and it too has been very useful, especially on my last trip in Death Valley where I climbed a steep dirt road with loose rocks and dirt. So when money becomes available you can always build a complete ARB 3rd member and do the swap when you are ready, keeping the OEM 3rd member in reserve. |
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Can you install an anti slip in instead of a locker?
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I would kick myself for not doing the differential if I going to open for gearing.
That said, if you don't plan on crawling and getting a tire off ground, it's going to be of little use to you and a waste of cash. There are other types of traction devices to consider... if I didn't have wheels leaving the ground on the regular basis, I would look into something like a mechanical limited slip. (Torsen style / Detroid trutrac)
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OP: If you don't see yourself needing a locker for the type of off roading you do, you should probably save your money and just leave the open diffs in there. |
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Plus, if you know how to drive a Torsens diff, you can go a long way without a locker. Apply a little break manually will allow the wheel without traction to turn. This is exactly what ATRAC does, therefore you will still get benefit with a wheel off the ground. Obviously it just won't be as effective as a real locker, but the OP has absolutely no use for. At this this is provide a benefit in all driving scenarios the OP is going to use it in. If he has cash burning a hole in his pocket during a gearing job... I would still go with a Torsen over a locker based on what he said, because he will probably get more use from it. If you know you might end up doing any crawling or the off-road places you go will get a tire off the ground, then the choice of easy. |
Thanks guys! I got a big decision to make lol. I already was planning on board air so that lessens the butthurt. Also was looking into a 6 week trip down through Death Valley, over to New Mexico/Arizona and back up through Colorado Idaho and Montana. I’m thinking It might come in handy then as the guy I’m wheelin with does push me to do the technical stuff. Wouldn’t hurt for resale eh!
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OP, lockers are good for mud and sand. I would put one in, for sure, if you are getting on-board air.
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Why don't you install a E-locker (Eaton seems to be the brand of choice there) instead of an air locker? That way you won't have to worry about air leaks or the addition of an air compressor under the hood.
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If you don't need it now - you probably won't regret it. I would put one in for my own use. But - the ATRAC really is pretty good. For most people it's more than enough. I would not put a limited slip in. ATRAC is already better than any limited slip I know of. So it would just be throwing your money away.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/6ARYqd9lQRo" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> The situation where a locker helps most are where there is a big difference between static and kinetic friction. Meaning once the tire spins you lose a lot of traction. Snow and ice is the most significant gap between the two traction types. So lockers are more beneficial as compared to traction control on snow and ice than any other surface condition. The next would probably be something like loose rocks/dirt. On the other end of the spectrum is high traction surfaces like slickrock in Utah. They are probably least beneficial on that type of rocks. Other conditions are somewhere in between. I would rather have a winch than a rear locker since you already have ATRAC. If you didn't have ATRAC - yeah, front and rear lockers would be the first place i'd spend my $. But since you already have ATRAC and it's pretty damn good. Winch would be where I'd spend my $. If you don't have one. I use my rear locker a lot more. But I could get by without it. When I need the winch - I NEED the winch. There's really no alternative that offers as much bang for the buck in terms of overall utility for me as a winch when you're stuck. |
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I went for many years on my 4th Gen without a locker until I had experienced most of ATRAC's limitations and benefits. ATRAC's main limitation is that it requires a wheel to first lose traction and spin before it can kick in braking. A locker (once engaged) will stay locked regardless of RPMs.
Both have their advantages and with my OEM E-locker and select-able ATRAC I can use them separately or together. |
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