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joshik 05-27-2020 11:59 AM

03->06 Projector with HID hot spot issue
 
I finished the 03-06 projector install a few weeks ago and have been battling an issue with the passenger side performance. I can't get a nice hotspot. The hotspot is pretty funky. The driver side is fine.

I'm pretty sure this is not how the hotspot is suppose to be, right?
This is from the first headlight but the second one is pretty much the same.
https://i.imgur.com/kubi1hW.jpg

I am running HIDs and switched bulbs between the driver and passenger and still the same . I swapped out the passenger side headlight with another one and same thing. I doubt I have two faulty headlights housings....?

I haven't done the squirrel finder mod yet on the passenger side but that shouldn't affect the hotspot yeh?

I am getting a 9006-H11 adapter so I can try a halogen bulb.

Gen4SR5 05-27-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by joshik (Post 3495852)
I am getting a 9006-H11 adapter so I can try a halogen bulb.

wait, so you are using 9006 HIDs in the projectors right now? I think that may be your problem. The housings can only fit H11 bulbs

joshik 05-27-2020 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen4SR5 (Post 3495945)
wait, so you are using 9006 HIDs in the projectors right now? I think that may be your problem. The housings can only fit H11 bulbs

sorry, no, i'm using H11s. I have some H11 halogens but cant try them as my connector is 9006. I'm getting connector adapters so I can connect to a H11 halogen.

Right now, I'm using DDM HIDs which have a universal plug. :)

Drift Monkey 05-27-2020 05:26 PM

Use proper projectors designed for HID and it won't be a problem.

https://i.imgur.com/zJ0RHHP.jpg

joshik 05-27-2020 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Drift Monkey (Post 3496064)
Use proper projectors designed for HID and it won't be a problem.

https://i.imgur.com/zJ0RHHP.jpg

The driver side doesn't have this issue.

But we will see, I will put halogens in tomorrow once I get my connector adapters.

Ed_C 05-28-2020 01:35 AM

OEM or aftermarket headlight?

riceandpho 05-28-2020 10:19 AM

1 Attachment(s)
its ddm bulbs, i would use the morimoto h11b bulbs.

but of course you cant compare these to true hid retrofits.
Attachment 362312

joshik 05-29-2020 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed_C (Post 3496248)
OEM or aftermarket headlight?

oem headlights.

i put in halogens today and still the same thing, so it's not the bulb. The driver side is fine, it's just the passenger side, whic is weird....

joshik 05-29-2020 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by riceandpho (Post 3496360)
its ddm bulbs, i would use the morimoto h11b bulbs.

but of course you cant compare these to true hid retrofits.
Attachment 362312

Agree. It ain't a balla setup but still doesn't explain the weird hot spot. Should still work. :T

riceandpho 05-29-2020 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by joshik (Post 3496905)
Agree. It ain't a balla setup but still doesn't explain the weird hot spot. Should still work. :T

having the correct bulbs will help also.

there is 2 kinds of h11 hid bulb.
the regular one will have the return wire in the top position,
the h11b will have the return wire at the correct position for the h11 halogen projectors.
the pic you have seems like the ground shadow effect when using the wrong hid bulb.
H11B: Morimoto XB HID

the website usually describe it, also how far was the light from the wall? to get accurate visual, must be 25 feet away.

joshik 05-29-2020 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riceandpho (Post 3496965)
having the correct bulbs will help also.

there is 2 kinds of h11 hid bulb.
the regular one will have the return wire in the top position,
the h11b will have the return wire at the correct position for the h11 halogen projectors.
the pic you have seems like the ground shadow effect when using the wrong hid bulb.
H11B: Morimoto XB HID

the website usually describe it, also how far was the light from the wall? to get accurate visual, must be 25 feet away.

ah yeh i was just thinking that! I was going to check on the return wire today. The picture was of the 4R close up to the garage to just get an idea of light output between the driver and pass side. I went on an aiming session run the other week and followed the manual and thats where i discovered the output differences.

I'll report back on the H11 vs H11b.

joshik 05-29-2020 06:53 PM

So I checked and the HID bulbs I have are in fact h11B. The return wire is on the opposite side of the wide tab.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1526322643

I stopped by DDM anyways and changed out the bulbs and same issue.

Thinking about it, if it was the H11A vs B, the driver side should see the same issue.

I got some new halogens and will try them out tonight. Using halogens, everything should work perfectly as these proj were made for halogens, right?

If not, then I'll have to try another headlight. :(

riceandpho 05-29-2020 09:45 PM

the more i look at the main pic, it possible that the projector is shinning through the dot of the headlight lens, usually they use them alignment box thingy.


Quote:

Originally Posted by joshik (Post 3497274)
So I checked and the HID bulbs I have are in fact h11B. The return wire is on the opposite side of the wide tab.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1526322643

I stopped by DDM anyways and changed out the bulbs and same issue.

Thinking about it, if it was the H11A vs B, the driver side should see the same issue.

I got some new halogens and will try them out tonight. Using halogens, everything should work perfectly as these proj were made for halogens, right?

If not, then I'll have to try another headlight. :(


joshik 05-30-2020 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riceandpho (Post 3497347)
the more i look at the main pic, it possible that the projector is shinning through the dot of the headlight lens, usually they use them alignment box thingy.

yeh i see those little dots. I don't think its that. You can see that the way the light refracts off the lens that it's not very "full".

You can see the diff. Not sure what to do. Even the halogens (Osram Night Breakers) do the same thing. I'll prob try another pass side headlight.



Driver Side:
https://i.imgur.com/a9Qtx9o.jpg

Pass Side:
https://i.imgur.com/2oPVkRX.jpg

riceandpho 05-30-2020 09:01 PM

could also be burned bowls.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshik (Post 3497390)
yeh i see those little dots. I don't think its that. You can see that the way the light refracts off the lens that it's not very "full".

You can see the diff. Not sure what to do. Even the halogens (Osram Night Breakers) do the same thing. I'll prob try another pass side headlight.



Driver Side:
https://i.imgur.com/a9Qtx9o.jpg

Pass Side:
https://i.imgur.com/2oPVkRX.jpg



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