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Thirty4 07-21-2021 05:25 PM

Post your wheel offset and help me understand
 
Post up your pics of your wheel offset and help me understand what I need to do to get a wider stance. I am interested in wheel offset for a 2021 4Runner TRD PRO. I am not sure how much offset is on the stock wheel, but I want to replace those wheels with a wheel that allows me to get the tire in-line or just a touch outside the fender. I really like the wider stance, but I do not know what I would need to purchase to get there. Please note that I do not want to use wheel spacers. And I do really like the rims on the PRO, but this time around I really want the offset. I would also likely put a 285/70/17 or a 295/70/17 tire on the wheels. That would also change if I went to an 18 inch wheel or down to a 16 inch wheel. So, if you haven’t guessed, I need a lot of help with this to understand what it takes to widen that stance!

EDIT: For clarification, I am willing to mod, just wanted to try and avoid the BMC. But, I have had some great advice here and it does not look possible unless I go all the way on the mods. Thanks for the help everyone!

meltdown 07-21-2021 05:50 PM

I’ve got OEM wheels and can’t really help you with the offset questions. What I can tell you is that 16” wheels won’t fit on your 4Runner as they don’t clear the brakes.

Thirty4 07-21-2021 06:14 PM

Good call! Thank you for the information.

Snowtrooper 07-21-2021 07:33 PM

Are you willing to do UCA, bumper trimming and possible BMC?

My general observation is that anything 8.5 and -10 offset a la SCS or your popular Japanese makes (Volk, Enkei, Works etc) is going to be pretty flush on 33’s.

Moving up to 9 inch wide and -38 with SCS or -24 with Summit off roads, you’ll have that poke but will definitely need the modding.

Just for comparison, your stock wheel is at 7 inch with a single digit offset. Any of the above will be a noticeably wider stance.

biratley 07-21-2021 08:50 PM

Dirtylife Roadkills
17x8.5 -6 offset
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srsrogerissrs 07-21-2021 09:06 PM

Use a wheel offset calculator website like https://www.willtheyfit.com/ and it'll tell you how much further your wheel/tire combo will "stick out".



17x9 +1 w/ 1.25 spacer which puts my offset at around -30
295/70/17

https://i.imgur.com/U1nBBXs.jpg

TRD PANTHER 07-21-2021 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by biratley (Post 3657731)
Dirtylife Roadkills
17x8.5 -6 offset
285’shttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b6dbfc751b.png


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Where is this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by srsrogerissrs (Post 3657737)
Use a wheel offset calculator website like https://www.willtheyfit.com/ and it'll tell you how much further your wheel/tire combo will "stick out".



17x9 +1 w/ 1.25 spacer which puts my offset at around -30
295/70/17

https://i.imgur.com/U1nBBXs.jpg

Nice pics. They should be in the 4Runner picture gallery.

Thirty4 07-21-2021 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowtrooper (Post 3657711)
Are you willing to do UCA, bumper trimming and possible BMC?

My general observation is that anything 8.5 and -10 offset a la SCS or your popular Japanese makes (Volk, Enkei, Works etc) is going to be pretty flush on 33’s.

Moving up to 9 inch wide and -38 with SCS or -24 with Summit off roads, you’ll have that poke but will definitely need the modding.

Just for comparison, your stock wheel is at 7 inch with a single digit offset. Any of the above will be a noticeably wider stance.

Would like to avoid the BMC, but I am fine with UCA’s. This information is great and really helps. I will likely have a question after I can look up some of the offsets and wheels that you mentioned. This part is just virgin territory for me, so I am taking all of the help I can get! I really appreciate the information.

Thirty4 07-21-2021 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biratley (Post 3657731)
Dirtylife Roadkills
17x8.5 -6 offset
285’shttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b6dbfc751b.png


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Looks good! Definitely pokes out more than stock it looks.

Thirty4 07-21-2021 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srsrogerissrs (Post 3657737)
Use a wheel offset calculator website like https://www.willtheyfit.com/ and it'll tell you how much further your wheel/tire combo will "stick out".



17x9 +1 w/ 1.25 spacer which puts my offset at around -30
295/70/17

https://i.imgur.com/U1nBBXs.jpg

Wow…..I love your stance! That’s what I am talking about! But, I am guessing you may have a BMC mod correct? I will check out the site that you mentioned. Very helpful!

2021nightshade4x4 07-21-2021 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowtrooper (Post 3657711)
Are you willing to do UCA, bumper trimming and possible BMC?

My general observation is that anything 8.5 and -10 offset a la SCS or your popular Japanese makes (Volk, Enkei, Works etc) is going to be pretty flush on 33’s.

Moving up to 9 inch wide and -38 with SCS or -24 with Summit off roads, you’ll have that poke but will definitely need the modding.

Just for comparison, your stock wheel is at 7 inch with a single digit offset. Any of the above will be a noticeably wider stance.


Stocks are +15


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blackened_offroad 07-21-2021 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thirty4 (Post 3657677)
Post up your pics of your wheel offset and help me understand what I need to do to get a wider stance. I am interested in wheel offset for a 2021 4Runner TRD PRO. I am not sure how much offset is on the stock wheel, but I want to replace those wheels with a wheel that allows me to get the tire in-line or just a touch outside the fender. I really like the wider stance, but I do not know what I would need to purchase to get there. Please note that I do not want to use wheel spacers. And I do really like the rims on the PRO, but this time around I really want the offset. I would also likely put a 285/70/17 or a 295/70/17 tire on the wheels. That would also change if I went to an 18 inch wheel or down to a 16 inch wheel. So, if you haven’t guessed, I need a lot of help with this to understand what it takes to widen that stance!

pics won't help you understand it. do some basic googling and look at drawings that show how offset works. the stock wheels are +15. the oversimplified version is that any rims the same width that are from +14 down to negative numbers offset will have a wider stance. anything the same width with +16 or higher offset will have a narrower stance. wider rims will have a wider stance unless they are significantly more positive offset.

if you want a wide stance, you want the SCS-38 wheels with a BMC, or other wheels with spacers and a BMC. I spent months looking through instagram and every single wide stance 4runner either had spacers or the -38 offset wheels. that's all there is to it. you have to run 17" or larger diameter wheels. if you run anything larger than stock tires with wider offset wheels, you have to do the BMC and fender liner. you do not necessarily have to do UCA.

TRD PANTHER 07-22-2021 01:48 AM

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My recommendation would be to get a small 2” front 1.5” rear spacer lift for your Fox shocks, i.e.; Wescott, ToyTec, Burtman, etc. Add some 285/70-17’s and call it good. No BMC required and the fender mod is already done on the Pro. The wheel width, offset and look of the Pro wheels with 285’s will look great. You can even keep your mud flaps. A 285/70-17 will also fit in your spare tire location. Start there IMO.

Snowtrooper 07-22-2021 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 2021nightshade4x4 (Post 3657757)
Stocks are +15


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The standard wheels on a TRD Off-Road 4Runner are +15mm offset. The OP mentioned having a TRD Pro, which should have “sema”wheels at a +4 offset.

blackened_offroad 07-22-2021 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Thirty4 (Post 3657752)
Wow…..I love your stance! That’s what I am talking about! But, I am guessing you may have a BMC mod correct? I will check out the site that you mentioned. Very helpful!

to fit these tires and this much offset, you need BMC, UCA's, fender liner trim, possibly pinch weld mod, and cutting the plastics in front of the front wheels.


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