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mtbtim 07-31-2021 05:05 PM

CS144 Alternator + Big 3 Wiring Upgrade
 
Hey My 3rd Gen 4runner Sisters and Brothers from another mother,

@infamousRNR (aka Sean) and I have another Sic Mod for Y'all. If you're getting into wheeling or overlanding and you're starting to add more things that cause a draw on your electrical charging system, there's a couple mods you might want to consider. One is the CS144 Alternator Upgrade and the other is the Big 3 wiring Upgrade. And, lucky for you, this video shows you how to accomplish both.

Sic Mods and Happy Wrenching!

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octanejunkie 05-13-2022 01:57 PM

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Nice vid guys!

Question about the CS144, I've read at least one post that recommends sourcing an alternator for a 1995 Cadillac DeVille with heated windshield.

While searching I find a few different models specifying with and without heated windshield.

With
Attachment 395849

Without
Attachment 395850

Why not just any CS144 140 AMP alternator?


EDIT
I ordered a New ACDelco Gold 335-1050 from Amazon. Cheaper than a rebuild at any partstore.

EDIT 2
Found this, as an option?
HIGH OUTPUT 140 AMP 1995-2004 TACOMA 3.4L 4 RUNNER ALTERNATOR
CS144 Alternator + Big 3 Wiring Upgrade

gamefreakgc 05-14-2022 10:45 PM

The one with a heated windshield has a higher amp rating due to the extra draw from the heater.

96RedRunner 05-14-2022 11:02 PM

I used the heated windshield version on 96Red be using the same on the 01 when I get to it.

octanejunkie 05-15-2022 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gamefreakgc (Post 3733484)
The one with a heated windshield has a higher amp rating due to the extra draw from the heater.

All of the CS144 alternators I saw listed for sale, regardless of heated windshield or not, claim to output 140 amps. Where is the variability?



Quote:

Originally Posted by 96redrunner (Post 3733487)
i used the heated windshield version on 96red be using the same on the 01 when i get to it.

Do you just insulate the three lugs, remove the wiring If the alternator came with it?

19963.4lsr5 05-15-2022 06:18 PM

New DB Electrical ADR0211-250 Alternator For Cadillac Brougham 91 92 CS144 HO

This is a 250a CS144 HO. As long as it’s clocked the same this looks good. I’ll search for this specific Cadillac…..


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octanejunkie 05-16-2022 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19963.4lsr5 (Post 3733605)
New DB Electrical ADR0211-250 Alternator For Cadillac Brougham 91 92 CS144 HO

This is a 250a CS144 HO. As long as it’s clocked the same this looks good. I’ll search for this specific Cadillac…..


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120 amps according to Amazon.com: DB Electrical ADR0211 Alternator Compatible With/Replacement For Cadillac Brougham 91 92 5.7 5.7L / Chevy Chevrolet Caprice 1989-1993 4.3L 5.0L 5.7L / 10463120, 10463195, 10463204, 10463213, 10479855 : Automotive

octanejunkie 05-16-2022 06:11 AM

Here's another option

HIGH OUTPUT 140 AMP 1995-2004 TACOMA 3.4L 4 RUNNER ALTERNATOR
Amazon.com: HIGH OUTPUT 140 AMP 1995-2004 TACOMA 3.4L 4 RUNNER ALTERNATOR : Automotive

The disadvantage is youd have to rebuild it if it fails or buy another one

96RedRunner 05-16-2022 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by octanejunkie (Post 3733591)
Do you just insulate the three lugs, remove the wiring If the alternator came with it?

I clipped and heat shrinked them back then 09. Figure you could use the leads as a power source if you dug into it.

19963.4lsr5 05-16-2022 10:05 AM


Yea, I just ran that model and the autoparts stores have a 105a or 124a for the 350cid. Sorry.


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19963.4lsr5 05-16-2022 10:39 AM

DB Electricial is advertising HO versions of the CS144.


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octanejunkie 05-16-2022 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19963.4lsr5 (Post 3733739)
DB Electricial is advertising HO versions of the CS144.


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I don't see much advantage going more than double the amps of the factory alternator, personally. 140 is fine for my purposes. I'm good with my Delco choice.

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19963.4lsr5 05-16-2022 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by octanejunkie (Post 3733746)
I don't see much advantage going more than double the amps of the factory alternator, personally. 140 is fine for my purposes. I'm good with my Delco choice.

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I agree and it’s OEM delco not hotrodded.

Just putting it out there.


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AbuHaroon 05-28-2023 12:50 PM

So why go to CS144 Alternator when you have a Denso one?
 
Not sure if anyone is seeing this thread. But I have a question..

So I am trying to understand why would one go to the Delco CS144 140 Amp Alternator when Denso has a 150 Amp alternator that I would think would be a bolt on version?

The only minor thing on that would be that it will need a 3-to-4 pin alternator adapter.. But other than that IIRC you will not need to put any shims or washers to put it on the trucks.

Now if you really want lots of amps I would think going to a higher output CS144 makes sense.. but for the most part that might be overkill...dont you think?

brillo_76 05-28-2023 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbuHaroon (Post 3798694)
Not sure if anyone is seeing this thread. But I have a question..



So I am trying to understand why would one go to the Delco CS144 140 Amp Alternator when Denso has a 150 Amp alternator that I would think would be a bolt on version?



The only minor thing on that would be that it will need a 3-to-4 pin alternator adapter.. But other than that IIRC you will not need to put any shims or washers to put it on the trucks.



Now if you really want lots of amps I would think going to a higher output CS144 makes sense.. but for the most part that might be overkill...dont you think?

Did you confirm that this denso actually fits? As I agree I rather have a denso than a Delco. Granted, I run stock. I just warn folks on the charging wire and make sure your circuits are fused properly with add ons.

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