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vagrant318 11-13-2021 10:21 PM

Replacement heads
 
What's a good source for replacement heads? Found some one ebay, mizumo or Odessa heads. Are they any good? Trying to salvage my 99 from a spark plug blowing out the threads bad enough no shop around me will repair. Haven't yet tried any local scrap yards yet but not expecting to find any there.
Thanks

19963.4lsr5 11-14-2021 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by vagrant318 (Post 3688174)
What's a good source for replacement heads? Found some one ebay, mizumo or Odessa heads. Are they any good? Trying to salvage my 99 from a spark plug blowing out the threads bad enough no shop around me will repair. Haven't yet tried any local scrap yards yet but not expecting to find any there.
Thanks


My napa has reman heads available I think.


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vagrant318 11-14-2021 04:54 PM

Called Napa, sounded like they weren't available but said to try back tomorrow

vagrant318 11-26-2021 09:57 PM

I found a passenger side head on eBay, apparently from a wrecked 99 with just under 200k miles, similar to mine. Will get it checked out and cleaned at the Machine shop Monday. Hopefully all goes well and I'll have a running truck again.
BTW Napa, O'Reilly's and AutoZone all never got back to me regarding inquiries about remanufactured heads which didn't appear available anyway

TW44LR 11-26-2021 10:44 PM

Hope it works out, keep us updated!


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mtbtim 11-27-2021 01:18 PM

Dude, just fix the head with a helicoil or time sert. You don't need to replace the head. Here's a video of me performing a heicoil repair on my wife's BMW engine. I would try this type of fix before going through the pains of replacing a head. If you can cancel the Ebay purchase, do it.

In the future if you need parts, check out PNW (Pacific Northwest) 4runner Connection. Josh Young and his business partner part out 3rd and 4th Gens in the state of Washington. They sell parts for fair prices. 登录 Facebook

Boy has the forum dropped off in a big way over the last couple years. Posts like this use to get lots of solid advice very quickly. I can't believe not one person before me suggested trying to fix the head with a helicoil or time sert. I personally haven't been that active on this forum either lately so I guess I can also blame myself for not giving the OP advise in a timely manner that would have saved him time and money. Hopefully my suggestion didn't come too late.

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vagrant318 11-27-2021 01:37 PM

I was posting before on another thread about repairing the head. Unfortunately where I live none of the mechanics/shops would touch the Job. Said the threads were way too blown out to helicoil or put in a timesert. Called and stopped in at several shops, explained the situation and they wouldn't do it and couldn't even recommend a shop that would. So with only 180k and the 200k miles maintenance done I figured I'd replace the head before trying a motor swap or selling to a scrap yard..

vagrant318 11-27-2021 01:41 PM

I bought my gaskets and coil pack from yotashop which is somewhere here in Washington but will check that site out too. Thanks for the suggestion

RandyBobandy 11-27-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mtbtim (Post 3691485)
Dude, just fix the head with a helicoil or time sert. You don't need to replace the head. Here's a video of me performing a heicoil repair on my wife's BMW engine. I would try this type of fix before going through the pains of replacing a head. If you can cancel the Ebay purchase, do it.

In the future if you need parts, check out PNW (Pacific Northwest) 4runner Connection. Josh Young and his business partner part out 3rd and 4th Gens in the state of Washington. They sell parts for fair prices. 登录 Facebook

Boy has the forum dropped off in a big way over the last couple years. Posts like this use to get lots of solid advice very quickly. I can't believe not one person before me suggested trying to fix the head with a helicoil or time sert. I personally haven't been that active on this forum either lately so I guess I can also blame myself for not giving the OP advise in a timely manner that would have saved him time and money. Hopefully my suggestion didn't come too late.

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I think a lot of people quit coming to the forum because you no longer have that sexy porn mustache in your recent videos

mtbtim 11-27-2021 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyBobandy (Post 3691494)
I think a lot of people quit coming to the forum because you no longer have that sexy porn mustache in your recent videos

I'm in the process of growing the porn stache again.

mtbtim 11-27-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by vagrant318 (Post 3691489)
I was posting before on another thread about repairing the head. Unfortunately where I live none of the mechanics/shops would touch the Job. Said the threads were way too blown out to helicoil or put in a timesert. Called and stopped in at several shops, explained the situation and they wouldn't do it and couldn't even recommend a shop that would. So with only 180k and the 200k miles maintenance done I figured I'd replace the head before trying a motor swap or selling to a scrap yard..

I call bullshit that the threads are supposedly "Too Blown Out". Of course they are blown out because that's why the spark plug shot out in the first place.
Having the threads Too Blown Out is literally impossible because you need to drill a bigger hole into the head and then re-tap for the helicoil or time sert. So, even if the threads were completely gone, it doesn't matter because you're going to be drilling a bigger hole anyway.

Dude, you don't need a shop because it sounds like they all have their heads up their asses anyway giving you shitty advice. Do yourself a favor and watch my video. You can do this job all on your own. Trust me. It's not rocket science.

vagrant318 11-27-2021 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mtbtim (Post 3691497)
I call bullshit that the threads are supposedly "Too Blown Out". Of course they are blown out because that's why the spark plug shot out in the first place.
Having the threads Too Blown Out is literally impossible because you need to drill a bigger hole into the head and then re-tap for the helicoil or time sert. So, even if the threads were completely gone, it doesn't matter because you're going to be drilling a bigger hole anyway.

Dude, you don't need a shop because it sounds like they all have their heads up their asses anyway giving you shitty advice. Do yourself a favor and watch my video. You can do this job all on your own. Trust me. It's not rocket science.

I'm watching the video now.
So what's the maximum size the buggered out hole can be? I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. This being not that uncommon of an occurrence I'd expect they would be able to fix if possible.
That being said the replacement head has already arrived with all the gaskets etc

mtbtim 11-27-2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by vagrant318 (Post 3691501)
I'm watching the video now.
So what's the maximum size the buggered out hole can be? I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. This being not that uncommon of an occurrence I'd expect they would be able to fix if possible.
That being said the replacement head has already arrived with all the gaskets etc

I can't remember the size drill bit I had to use for the helicoil but it's in the video. if the helicoil or time sert (if you choose) fixes the issue, you can hopefully send the gasket kit back to the Yota Shop for a refund. You'll be out the shipping though. As for the head, that's a whole lot more pricey to send back, provided the seller would even take it back. You could hang onto it or try to resell it yourself.

Dude, at this point, you really have nothing to lose other than a little bit of your time and the cost of the helicoil or time sert kit. The helicoil I installed on my wife's BMW engine has held up for quite some time. If you do the repair right, it could last the rest of the life of the engine.

If you can avoid a head replacement, that would be the best choice because replacing a head is a lot of work or you will end up paying a shop a whole heap of money to do it for you.

Romeo1 11-27-2021 04:08 PM

Porn stache….lol…. Brown chicken brown cow……hahahaha.

I’m with Tim, you can fix this yourself. I think this is a case of shops have more business than they can even handle with the labor situation. It sucks, but it’s what it is for the time being.

I too may be in the cylinder head mode also. Self inflicted though….Fingers crossed my eBay score pans out.

FYI, The cam seal caps aren’t available separately. Note to self, your an idiot for breaking one….. what a rookie move. I haven’t screwed up that bad that in a good while.

RandyBobandy 11-27-2021 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mtbtim (Post 3691495)
I'm in the process of growing the porn stache again.

That’s excellent news, I know for a fact that mustache has turned quite a few forum members gay


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