Rubbing Tire on 2021 TRD Pro
When I turn wheel full lock to the left, while backing up, front driver's tire rubs wheel well. I think it's hitting the head of a bolt and/or the edge of the plastic fender liner. While in for an oil change last year at a dealership in SLC (I was on the road), I asked them to have a look.
The service manager told me he wouldn't look at it because I have aftermarket tires on the car and I had lifted it. But the tires are the stock Nitto Grapplers and the "lift" he claimed I did was just the OEM Fox shocks because it's a TRD Pro. I looked at the guy like he was an alien and tried to explain that the car was completely stock. He told me, "I've been working for Toyota for 40 years and I've NEVER seen a stock 4Runner with these tires and these shocks. You clearly lifted the car and put aftermarket tires on it." I had to pull up Toyota's website to show him and instead of just owning his mistake, he walked away from me mid-sentence. This was at Karl Malone Toyota in SLC. The guy was extremely rude and refused to honor Toyota's warranty or even have a look. Anyway... Is this kind of rubbing normal? I guess I'll have to take a heat gun or saw to the fender liner to fix. |
LOL,, had the same thing when I brought my 2013 trail into my local for free oil change, the service adviser liked what i did to my 4Runner. Trail editions were rare in the NY/NJ/CT area. When I told him it came like that its the Trail edition, he said oh he never saw one before. No tire rubbing with the stock dunlaps, but same size tire in the Cooper STT Pros those rubbed when turned all the way. Glad to see a more off roady stock tire for the 4Runner.
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And find a dealer that's less of a tool :-) |
It’s possible that your bumper wasn’t trimmed at the port. It’s part of the Pro installation procedure to convert from an ORP. There’s an open TSB for this.
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Once that's done, I suggest you get a friend to stand by the tire while you crank the wheel and back up, in order to identify what part of the actual fender you're hitting. I had a similar issue when I went up to 275/70/R17s with a 1.75" lift up front. I did the fender liner mod, then used a dremel sanding bit to sand off about 1/16" from the inside lip of my fender where the tire would hit when reversing a full lock. It make a clacking sound, kind of like having a stiff playing card in a bike tire. Fortunately, it's a pretty simple fix most of the time. |
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That's wild. Had never heard of this.
I just went and looked at mine (2019) and yup, you can see where this mod has been done by the port. And the cut is nice and smooth, just like the instructions. These things have endless surprises. |
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I would put more faith in most dealerships than I would some random person at the port. As for the MY threshold, it’s easy to check if this has been done and it applies to all Pro’s because it’s not like Toyota released an updated bumper for the MY21/22 Pro. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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We have a 2020 ORP and shortly after purchase, we installed the same wheels and tires as a stock Pro. It was side impacted back in November and it required replacement of the front passenger side fender. The shop had to remove the bumper cover to replace the fender. The night we got the truck home, I backed out of the driveway with the tires at full lock and I heard a grinding sound. I knew it was the tire hitting the liner. The body shop didn't get one of the bolts situated through one of the holes on the liner correctly (one of the holes noted in the TSD) and it caused the liner to push inwards toward the tire maybe 1/4". That's all it took to create a clearance issue. I got the liner situated correctly and the sound went away. I had never paid attention to just how tight fender and tire clearances are in the front.
The main reason this becomes as issue on the Pros is because the Pro wheels have 10mm more negative offset and push the wheels further out from the body. This can cause a clearance issue due to the offset vs castor relationship. It's quite easy to figure out the issue. Turn the wheels to full lock, put in park, and check the clearance of the tire to the fender liner on each side. Where it will rub is noted on the TSD and likely you'll see a faint mark on the fender liner were the tire has touched it. |
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Fix rubbing
My 2020 TRD ORP rubs with stock size tires on aftermarket rims, I loosened fender liner bolts and pushed liner back and tightened back down and no more rub.
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