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BKRunner 12-01-2022 07:14 PM

2022 SR5 surprised me with its power ...
 
I was on vacation in Orlando and my rental car was a 2022 Sr5, 4wd with 22,000 miles. What I'm about to say is in comparison to my 2010 Limited with Magnuson Supercharger.

This SR5 was very responsive. The amount of power I felt in acceleration and highway cursing was on par with my supercharged LTD. In addition, this thing was very quiet, much much quieter than my 2010.

The biggest surprise to me was the transmission, never once did it hunt for gears between 4 and 5 at 70 to 75 miles on the freeway. Heck I have the magnuson, TRD intake and magnaflow, plus the sprint booster and the 4 to 5 gear hunt on the slightest incline at highway speeds drives me nuts.

So here are my questions, why was this the case:
I live in Canada, 3500 above sea level. Was the power difference due to me being in Florida?
Limited is awd, was the difference due to RWD vs. awd? Although the rental agreement listed the vehicle as all wheel drive, but I couldn't test this.
Is there an updated transmission tune on the newer 4runners vs. my 2010?
Are the newer 4runners better sound proofed?

For those who might ask, I'm on stock 265-70-17s.

Thank you in advance for your thoughts.

jdm-v35 12-01-2022 07:41 PM

mostly altitude. If the sr5 was 2wd only then there would also be a significant weight difference. Most rentals seem to be 2wd only.

Forgetful 12-01-2022 08:05 PM

Um what? On cruise control my 21 TRD downshifts to 4th for a 0.25 degree slope. Or a headwind.

Maybe I need to buy a 22.

BKRunner 12-01-2022 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdm-v35 (Post 3772866)
mostly altitude. If the sr5 was 2wd only then there would also be a significant weight difference. Most rentals seem to be 2wd only.

No, this one was 4WD. It had a dial 4wd selector similar to my limited.

jp.vegas 12-02-2022 12:11 AM

2022 SR5 surprised me with its power ... said no one ever…

BKRunner 12-02-2022 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp.vegas (Post 3772915)
2022 SR5 surprised me with its power ... said no one ever…

I'm not kidding. This thing purred and was so smooth. One of the things with my own truck, I always feel something is stock in its throat, that it needs to breed more freely. Not with this SR5, it felt so free flowing.

thennen 12-02-2022 05:50 AM

Contrary to all the naysayers, I've always thought my 2019 TRDOR was responsive. 0-60 in 7.5 seconds is what the road testers say it does. While that won't win you many races, it's not slouchy for a vehicle like this. And, I won my only drag race with it when I beat a Honda Accord Sport with the turbo, who was bent on cutting me off at a stoplight. He couldnt ;-D

mbm112 12-02-2022 06:38 AM

Definitely a difference in altitude. At 5k ft there’s like a second of delay from when I mash the throttle and when the 4Runner decides to move.


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JoeBand 12-02-2022 09:25 AM

silly question but: 3500' or 3500m?

remember too, florida is also pancake flat.

i came from a 1975 4.2 2f, to a 22re 5pd, to a 2000' 3.4 to this 4.0 beast... i'll never think it's slow.

IslandJim 12-02-2022 09:34 AM

Jumps off the line
 
Have Pizza cutter mud tires that are very heavy, dont have booster or anything like that. While my 4Runner may not be so fast on the straight away, it seems to jump off the line at any light.

Which is great, love the low-end torque from starting at a stop.

5thToy 12-02-2022 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBand (Post 3772946)
silly question but: 3500' or 3500m?

remember too, florida is also pancake flat.

i came from a 1975 4.2 2f, to a 22re 5pd, to a 2000' 3.4 to this 4.0 beast... i'll never think it's slow.

I hear you. My first car was a 67 VW with 53 HP. I was as slow as loaded semis up hills, screaming in third gear from the right lane.

jp.vegas 12-02-2022 12:55 PM

Lots of delusional sufferers of Stockholm syndrome in here...

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But really they're just ok. It's just barely enough to edge out a 4 banger Camry SE that thought it was a sports car.

balong48 12-02-2022 01:23 PM

Having driven both a 2011 and 2014 Limited, there are definitely refinements in the 2014 that the 2011 doesn't have.

The 2014 definitely has more sound deadening material. I think they changed the throttle mapping as well. I have to push the pedal down more in my 2011 than I do in the 2014. I'd imagine these both continued forward since 2014.

With the vehicle this long in the tooth, Toyota may have dialed in the transmission programming more since, if I remember right, it's a different ECU in the 2020+ 4Runners. But other than that, same engine, same transmission, same body, same weight, I can't imagine the 22 is any quicker. If it feels that way my guess is the change in throttle mapping.

BKRunner 12-02-2022 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBand (Post 3772946)
silly question but: 3500' or 3500m?

remember too, florida is also pancake flat.

i came from a 1975 4.2 2f, to a 22re 5pd, to a 2000' 3.4 to this 4.0 beast... i'll never think it's slow.

3500 feet.

Ripper238 12-02-2022 04:31 PM

I would say altitude, but 3500ft isn't a lot. More likely the big age difference and slight refinements over the passed 12 years.

Yeah, the 4R is not slow. 0-60 in ~7 seconds beats out some cheap compact sporty cars.

xiphos 12-02-2022 05:43 PM

I constantly find my '23 Pro hunting between 4th and 5th gear. Pedal Commander has made it feel way more "powerful" meaning responsive to pedal input but I wouldn't say it felt great.

My old '18 Highlander felt like it had way more power than my Pro does.

Grug556 12-02-2022 05:48 PM

I have a 21 limited, it feels quick compared to my 16 limited. My 21 is all stock and the 16 is heavily modified and much heavier.

djeepin 12-02-2022 06:44 PM

Just don't drive in D (intelligent overdrive mode), the very second you remove foot from gas pedal (in speed over 40MPH), transmission shifts into overdrive (i.e. 5th gear - ratio 0.72) lowering RPM to save fuel. Constant shifting burn fluid and plates in transmission. Feeling of new vehicle more powerful is same feeling, when you had on just installed new clutch plate in manual transmission - minimal slippage. if you install bigass tires, added tons of metal plus other things added a lot of weight, but not added torque. solution? do not use transmission intelligence and drive in S4 in a city, use D only on long HWY drive. if you need accelerate, switch to lower gear, S4 or S3.

gomiami 12-02-2022 07:07 PM

Huh...I have rented a lot of cars in my day and I don't think I've ever seen a 4Runner as a rental vehicle.

Orlando International is (by far) the highest volume car rental location in the US...so, if it would be anywhere, that's as good a place as any.

JoeBand 12-02-2022 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5thToy (Post 3772955)
I hear you. My first car was a 67 VW with 53 HP. I was as slow as loaded semis up hills, screaming in third gear from the right lane.

i still have one of those... ;). i love me a manual trans.

5thToy 12-02-2022 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBand (Post 3773081)
i still have one of those... ;). i love me a manual trans.

I miss that car. Underpowered, manual trans, rear wheel drive, rear engine, no power steering or power brakes. Air cooled, have to keep the RPMs up.

A kid really learns how to drive cutting his teeth on a car like that.

It has served me well over the years.

honda250xtitan 12-04-2022 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBand (Post 3773081)
i still have one of those... ;). i love me a manual trans.

i just finished restoring my 66. 2 and 3 gears feel "quick" on the street.

BlueRunner428 12-05-2022 04:46 AM

4Runners aren't slow, but they aren't speed demons either. People these days have also been spoiled by just how darn powerful vehicles have become. I mean the 4Runner's engine is a 4.0 liter V6 that makes 270 horsepower. I remember back in the 1990s when full size trucks came with V8s making like 220 horsepower. You could get a V10 for the Dodge Ram that made 300 horsepower, which was a big deal back then. I remember in 1998 when it was a big deal how you could get a 245 horsepower V8 for the Jeep Grand Cherokee. And regular compact cars came with 120 to 150 horsepower engines. Now all those vehicles would be considered pathetically underpowered. An SUV the size and weight of the 4Runner with 270 horsepower ba k then would have been considered a monster. But now such vehicles have like 300, 400, 500, and 600+ horsepower, so people are very spoiled.

My 4Runner drives very smooth and quiet and accelerates plenty fine for normal daily use. It isn't any speed demon but I do not see the vehicle as slow either.

BlueRunner428 12-05-2022 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djeepin (Post 3773059)
Just don't drive in D (intelligent overdrive mode), the very second you remove foot from gas pedal (in speed over 40MPH), transmission shifts into overdrive (i.e. 5th gear - ratio 0.72) lowering RPM to save fuel. Constant shifting burn fluid and plates in transmission. Feeling of new vehicle more powerful is same feeling, when you had on just installed new clutch plate in manual transmission - minimal slippage. if you install bigass tires, added tons of metal plus other things added a lot of weight, but not added torque. solution? do not use transmission intelligence and drive in S4 in a city, use D only on long HWY drive. if you need accelerate, switch to lower gear, S4 or S3.

Are you referring to that "Eco" mode I see come on all the time?

TRD PANTHER 12-05-2022 07:19 AM

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balong48 12-05-2022 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueRunner428 (Post 3773373)
Are you referring to that "Eco" mode I see come on all the time?

The 4Runner doesn’t have an “Eco” mode. That light is tied to the pedal and turns on and off based on how far down the gas pedal is pressed. It’s more an indication of “Hey! You’re driving economically!” rather than a dedicated mode that affects shift points, throttle response, etc. It is somewhat confusing, especially given my 2011 has a setting where I can turn that light on and off. Not sure if 2014+ have that setting, but it doesn’t change the way the vehicle performs.


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