01-11-2010, 01:20 PM
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Vsc trac & vsc off
I just thought I'd resurrect this thread.
I just had the Mass.state emissions done on my '03 and the lights came on. I pointed this out to the tech and they had never seen it happen before. I went back to the station with the TSP in hand and they reset the sensor for me. The tech said he would bring it to the attention of the State Inpection Dept. to update their system.
Thanks for all the help guys. Saved me a trip to the dealer.
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01-11-2010, 01:50 PM
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Hi all,
Just wanted to give an update on my situation as well. I had the issue where the VSC Trac/VSC Off (no check engine) would ONLY come on if the weather was cold. I purchased a scangauge 2 to see if I can get any codes (surprisingly, there were none), however it appears my issue has been fixed (sort of) by having the unit plugged in at all times. I did remove it and the lights came on again, reinstalled and it is gone. I have no technical info on why this works, but it does for my case.
It is a pleasant surprise to have the issue resolved (or at least masked) and having the additional info from the OBD2 port. The amber light can be adjusted to match the factory gauges pretty well also.
Hoppe this helps.
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01-11-2010, 02:06 PM
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There was another thread I ran across while researching this. Look further on this forum with keywords OBD2, pin, reset, VSC
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01-12-2010, 02:40 AM
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01-16-2010, 02:50 AM
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VSC OFF fixed Update
I had this problem several days ago. VSC TRAC and VSC lights lit up on the dash. No Check Engine Light and no ABS Light. I tested the ABS on some ice and it did kick in. So ABS and VSC are infact seperate.
I researched this problem on this forum. 2 situations that can possibly result in this condition both were done to my 2003 4runner.
1) the toyota ODBII scanner was attached to it
2) a new key was programmed for the truck. But not sure how they program a new key, maybe it is also with the ODBII??
Anyhow many persons have listed the above as causing this issue to manifest itself. Brought it back to toyota, and they preformed the Zero Point Calibration on it. This has fixed my problem. It's been several days and it hasn't come back. I tried resetting this with 2 other ODBII belonging to a mechanic I know but was not able to perform the recalibration. So be advised if you plan on buying a ODBII scanner for only this particular problem, the non toyota scanners might not have the capability....the BR001-4 provideds information on how to reset manually with the scanner.
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01-17-2010, 02:54 PM
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Why programming a key clears yaw/decel memory
Many (including me) frequenty talk about "programming a new key" for the 4runner and other vehicles with immobilizer or alarm-equipment that makes use of a chip in the ignition key.
The chip in the key is actually a small device that responds to a radio frequency stimulus signal from the vehicle (a transmitter in or very near to the ignition switch) and replies with a digital code unique to that key.
So when you're programming a new key, what you're actually doing is programming the vehicle's own main computer or security module computer (and not the key itself) to accept a specific key. The key itself is unaffected. This process is sometimes called "enrolling the key" and the same thing could happen with a lock/unlock key fob, etc. It's pretty similar to setting up a garage door opener with "rolling code" technology to accept additional remotes.
One thing to keep in mind is that to do the enrolling of a new key you need one of Toyota's "hand-held tester" units and a valid master key for the vehicle in question. They're the black-bodied keys and not the gray valet key. If you lose both master keys you can still use the valet key to open and operate the vehicle, but to get a new key made you (actually the dealer) will have to buy a new security module (several hundred dollars I think) and enroll new key(s) to that module. That's the way they do the ignition immobilizer security, and keep thieves from programming their own keys as a way to steal your car. The lesson here is that if you lose one master key you might consider getting a replacement soon, because if you lose the other master you're in for a bigger bill.
Of course this info is current for the 4th gen 4runners that I'm familiar with. Things can always change.
It's kind of a pain, but I hear from local police that these chip-equipped keys and associated immobilizers are successful at reducing the theft rate of these vehicles. Now if Toyota would only make a more effective lock for the spare tire...
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01-21-2010, 01:43 PM
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thanks MicaBlue03 for starting this post!!! good write up!!!
haven't tried it yet but had CHECK LIGHT, VSC TRAC and VSC OFF lights being turned on by other emission failures (including catalyst and oxygen sensor problems). i erased out code with a obdII scanner CEL turned off but VSC TRAC and VSC OFF still appeared. add guarantee to pass smog in the gas tank drove for a few weeks did my smog i passed with no problem w VSC TRAC and VSC OFF light appeared on. thanks!!!
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01-25-2010, 02:07 PM
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VSC off, TRAC off and check engine light on and rough idle
I'm having some issues with mine. I have an 02 sr5 and I went to start my runner this morning and it had a rough time turning over. The battery is fine. Once it turns over, it idles very roughly and when i give it gas, it stalls. Hope this isn't a huge issue. Any help?
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01-25-2010, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by t4rjon02
I'm having some issues with mine. I have an 02 sr5 and I went to start my runner this morning and it had a rough time turning over. The battery is fine. Once it turns over, it idles very roughly and when i give it gas, it stalls. Hope this isn't a huge issue. Any help?
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try posting on the actual problems and warranty forum. this thread is specific to the 4thgen.
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02-02-2010, 03:15 PM
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2003 T4R VSC TRAC + VSC Off + Engine Lights "ON"
I have a 2003 Toyota 4 Runner Limited. a couple of days ago, VSC TRAC + VSC Off & Engine Lights all came ON at the same time.
I live in Canada and it is pretty cold, but I have used this same car the whole past winter without issues.
I have replaced my tires about a month ago, but it was fine right after that..
I have read many of the threads, and they are useful, but is there anyone who could help me with what should be done to this specific case (3 lights!!).
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02-03-2010, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Canada 4 Runner
I have a 2003 Toyota 4 Runner Limited. a couple of days ago, VSC TRAC + VSC Off & Engine Lights all came ON at the same time.
I live in Canada and it is pretty cold, but I have used this same car the whole past winter without issues.
I have replaced my tires about a month ago, but it was fine right after that..
I have read many of the threads, and they are useful, but is there anyone who could help me with what should be done to this specific case (3 lights!!).
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I had VSC Off + VSC TRAC + CEL (Check Engine Light) ON.
I disconnected the +ve terminal of the battery over night and this morning reconnected it and all lights are gone.
I drove the vehicle for more than 1 Hour and no lights came ON. I checked the Traction and it is working as well as the ABS.
I will drive it for another day or two and see what happens. I may take it to my mechanic to have him look at it as well.
This site is so helpful.. Thanks all for sharing your experience.
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02-05-2010, 04:02 AM
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So I did this test like 4 months ago with my brother in law and nothing worked the lights stayed on BUT I just checked the instructions and had noticed that he didn't read the last part so what do I do I grab a stereo and a paper clip follow the instruction and wam bam thank you mam I am all fre of the VCS LIGht YEAHH. I am very very happy thanks Guys. Just finished installing an HID kit will post pic soon. had a slight problem but figured out it was a polarity problem switched the switch upside down and wam their shell be light man 6000k looks good
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02-10-2010, 07:59 PM
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toyota 4 runner vsc light
Hey I just wanted to thank micablue for his detailed information on the zero point calibration. I brought my wifes truck in for inspection and here in New Hampshire the hook up to the diag connector. Now although I know the vsc light may come on at anytime it just didnt seem right. I performed the recalibration according to procedure and low and behold off the light goes. You learn something new everyday with vehicles
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02-15-2010, 08:20 PM
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VSC TRAC, VSC OFF, and ABS on ONLY when headlights on?!?!?!
I'm hoping someone can help...I get all three lights, but ONLY when the headlights are turned on. In fact, it only takes turing the parking lamps on to trigger the lights. I did do the ZPC last night, and in fact the lights cleared...but then this morning as soon as I turned the headlights on, there were the lights to greet me. Anyone got any ideas? Please help!!!
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WOW!!! I recently found this forum due to the Dealership wanting to charge me $100 for my VSA/TRAC lights being on. I too went through emissions, and they told me that it was like that before I came in. Well I tried the Procedure, and to my avail it worked!!! I just want to that everyone who has done some reserch and figured this out. THANK YOU!!!
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