Are there different engines for 5th gen T4Rs?
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spartacus
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To my knowledge 2.7 L 2TR-FE I4 SR5 2WD, 4.0 L 1GR-FE V6
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Satter
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Could you tell me in what trim levels does the 4.0L come standard?
Whippersnapper02
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All the same V6 making the same power across the board. The 4 banger was a one year (2010) only 2wd option that didn't sell.
spartacus
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2010 was the only year for the 2wd 2.7l. The 4.0l v6 is common across all trim levels in the 5th gen.
Satter
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Interesting. Very interesting. I recently drove a 2020 4R as a loner car while my 3rd gen 4Runner was getting some maintenance done. While there were certain aspects of the 5th gen I was very impressed with I was a little disappointed by the power. It seemed quite slow and lumbering. The throttle response was slower as well. And this 4Runner only had 400 miles on it.
spartacus
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Folks use pedal comander device to improve throttle response. I just use a heavier foot on the gas pedal to get the response i want, but you are correct it could use more horses but what vehicle wouldnt. I have a 3rd Gen and a 5th gen. The 5th gen has 80 more hp's but weighs more too. long distance driving trips etc are much more comfortable for the family in the 5th and the wife prefers it. Also it tows the travel trailer better. Don't want to start a 3rd Gen vs 5th gen debate. The 3rd Gen is easier to work on for sure.
Jetboy
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The 5th Gen 4Runner is roughly the same weight as most current crew cab 4x4 half ton trucks, but about 100hp short under the hood. It felt slow because it is pretty slow by modern standards. It's adequate, especially if you leave it mostly stock. But it's due for some new power plant and transmission options. Hopefully coming soon?
And your initial reaction is pretty close to mine. The v6 should be the base engine as it was in the 4th gen and there should be a v8 or turbo 6 as an option. A couple supercharger options do exist. They're all around $7k plus or minus a bit to get installed. But that's about the only power upgrade that exists.
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Gamma Ray
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It never really gets snappy, but I found my 4Runner to pick up some after breaking it in. Installing the TRD exhaust helped a bit, too.
mikey's2010SR5
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All the same engine. The 4 cyl is no more
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rightyouareken
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It's a good point about the weight. You don't realize how much bigger the 5th gen is until you see them side by side or drive them back to back. The 5th gen is about 800lbs heavier in curb weight (depending on models). Here are my 2 (2002 and 2020)
LandCruiser
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No, and I'm not even sure the 4 banger existed but someone claimed to have seen one on eGay.
fashorunner
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is there even a more powerful toyota engine one could swap? I'm sure the tundra /land cruiser V8 doesn't fit? What about a current-gen Supra crate? Even the highlander engine has a little more up top, although I'm sure the power band/tuning is dramatically different?
mikey's2010SR5
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The 5.7 would fit. They stuffed it in a Tacoma. No thanks on the BMW Supra motor. How about a Toyota V8 diesel from the 79?
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Friggin Idiot
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Agreed on the BMW B58 3.0L I6 twin scroll turbo. It's what came in my newly acquired 340 (because fat guys don't look good in Supras). The maintenance costs are surely going to be pricey, and the low end torque (<2000rpm) sure doesn't feel like it would be sufficient for low speed 4WD up an incline let alone hauling a boat out of the lake up the ramp. In a car it's fine, but I wouldn't want it in a truck or truck based SUV.
I drove the stock 1GR-FE and eventually strapped on the URD/Whipple supercharger kit because of lack of power when hot & high. I would rather have had the 4.7L V8 2UZ-FE from the 2nd gen Tundra / 4th gen 4Runner. Dad had a Tundra and there was plenty of torque down low and was smooth. I'm not so sure about the replacement, 4.6L 1UR-FE, but I've not driven a GX470 or Tundra with one. Ideally the 5.7L V8 3UR-FE would be great, but in that tight of space who would actually want to do anything but drain fluids from it!?
OP you're stuck with the 4.0L I6 1GR-FE unless you jump over to the Lexus GX470 where you get the 4.6L V8 1UR-FE. On the other hand, if you want more power it's available. Magnuson and URD both have supercharger kits available for the 4Runner.
Whippersnapper02
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You can run any engine you want as long as you have the money for the swap. Nothing is going to bolt right in though.
Srsd2850
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Engine response
I found that my new 4Runner felt much more sluggish when new because the adaptive transmission hadn’t yet learned my driving style. I drive it with a very heavy foot and you can’t be hesitant to mash the pedal down. The problem of perceived sluggishness seems to be more with how the pedal interfaces with the engine, which accounts for the popularity of accessories like Sprint Booster and Pedal Commander with these models. I am getting tired of mashing the pedal down so frequently for every day driving such as merging lanes. The 5th Gen is reported to have a 0-60 time of 7.5 - 7.7 sec., which isn’t so bad for a vehicle this size with a naturally aspirated engine. I preferred the feel of the V-8 from my ‘04 GX 470. I don’t know why Toyota stopped offering that engine in the 4Runner.
I found that my new 4Runner felt much more sluggish when new because the adaptive transmission hadn’t yet learned my driving style. I drive it with a very heavy foot and you can’t be hesitant to mash the pedal down. The problem of perceived sluggishness seems to be more with how the pedal interfaces with the engine, which accounts for the popularity of accessories like Sprint Booster and Pedal Commander with these models. I am getting tired of mashing the pedal down so frequently for every day driving such as merging lanes. The 5th Gen is reported to have a 0-60 time of 7.5 - 7.7 sec., which isn’t so bad for a vehicle this size with a naturally aspirated engine. I preferred the feel of the V-8 from my ‘04 GX 470. I don’t know why Toyota stopped offering that engine in the 4Runner.
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