GWNF - June 27,28

theBEAR

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I'm planning a trip to the George Washington National Forest in June (26-28) and I wanted to know if there are any NOVA 4Runners who are interested.

The plan is to head out from Manassas Friday morning around 10AM and make for North River Campground. We will stage from there and really just EXPLORE since I have never been there. Saturday we will head back to the northern neck of the woods to meet up with a LandCruiser friend of mine.
 
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Sending this one back to the top since go time is only a few weeks away. I've got a decent group together. Anybody else want to join us?
 
Hey bud-
I might be interested. But i've got to warn you I'm a total noob with a stock rig. If it's basic trails, (like Peter's Mill Run) I'm sure I'd be fine though.

Also, I've got kids that would love a trail run, but if you've got a more adult thing in mind, that's no problem - I TOALLY understand (not everyone wants to hang with a 3 and 5 year old :party:)

Let me know :thumb3:
 
Hey bud-
I might be interested. But i've got to warn you I'm a total noob with a stock rig. If it's basic trails, (like Peter's Mill Run) I'm sure I'd be fine though.

Also, I've got kids that would love a trail run, but if you've got a more adult thing in mind, that's no problem - I TOALLY understand (not everyone wants to hang with a 3 and 5 year old :party:)

Let me know :thumb3:

First of all, your stock 4Runner can do more than you would believe. I know because I signed up for some BEGINNER level trails and our guides took a few "wrong turns." Before I knew it I was on some pretty hairy trails and my runner only has a few MINOR dings on the undercarriage. Lets just say that I thought I was destroying my truck as I was going down the trail, but I got home and checked it out and it was A O.K.

C'mon out man! I'm bringing my girlfriend so it's not going to be a Daniel Boone weekend. Bring your kids too! I'm pretty sure my LandCruiser buddy is bringing his kids with him. My 4Runner is very nearly stock and all of the guys going are fairly new to offroading so you will be in good company. We will not be looking for any rock crawling opportunities, but my Jeeper buddy does have a winch so we should be ok with whatever we run into. GWNF is looking cooler and cooler the more I read about it so I just want to explore and have a good time!

I'll post up some info about fees that can be anticipated so you'll know how much cash to have on hand. I know camping will be around $15/night. FYI
 
I was out there this weekend. The trails definitely tighten up during the summer when it all comes back to life after winter. Expect pin stripes. Also, the USFS? is making some changes to the trails. They've laid down some logs and boulders to prohibit you from certain places. There are work arounds for some of the tougher stuff but I left Flag Pole with some damage (due to my stupidity really). It's worth the drive and a lot of fun though. Bring bug spray... seriously.
 
There are work arounds for some of the tougher stuff but I left Flag Pole with some damage (due to my stupidity really).

Thanks for the intel. ^^^ What happened? One thing that I'm worried about is wandering into an area that is more technical than our group can handle. Are the trails pretty intuitive or do you really have to know your way around? ?

Thanks for the bug spray comment. I've got some . . . but I think I'll get some more.
 
Thanks for the intel. ^^^ What happened? One thing that I'm worried about is wandering into an area that is more technical than our group can handle. Are the trails pretty intuitive or do you really have to know your way around? ?

Thanks for the bug spray comment. I've got some . . . but I think I'll get some more.

I tried to go up a rock ledge that was about 2.5 feet tall. I thought I was on a few smaller rocks that led up to it to help get my bumper over the ledge but apparently I missed the smaller rocks. I had my gf with me but should have had her out spotting me... lesson learned. Minor trail damage to the front bumper cover. I should ad that it wasn't part of the trail. There are areas adjacent to the trail to "play" and I got a little bold.

As far as knowing your way around. I like Flag Pole which is somehow a state road. It shows on GPS. You can start at the Union Springs Rd end or the Briery Branch Rd end and work toward the other. In my opinion, it's harder to start at the Union Springs end and work toward Briery. The trickier sections are "uphill" that way and while I never had to use a locker, the rocky uphill stretches get a little sketchy but aren't as bad if you're headed "downhill" by starting at Briery Branch. Let me see if I can pull it all up on google maps.


Here are the coordinates for the start of the trail: 38°28'55.4"N 79°13'15.3"W and this is where you should come out: 38°28'13.6"N 79°03'27.2"W

Start there which is that right turn off Briery Branch to 85. Follow 85 to 85a and take that split. Keep following that until it splits at Union Springs and take that "left." Union Springs will get you out. Check it out on google maps and let me know if you have any questions. None of it is marked but the path is obvious once you're there. Plan on a 4-5 hour start to finish. Last time I ran it, I started around 1400 and was done by 1730 but I didn't stop to get out and sight see etc.
 
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I like Flag Pole

[MENTION=97032]hearno[/MENTION]: thanks again for the good intel. We will most likely take this route and I will let you know how it goes because I'm the kind of guy who likes to get out and take pictures.
[MENTION=97856]Salman[/MENTION]
[MENTION=124947]20DYNAMITE07[/MENTION]
and anyone else interested in joining.

Itinerary
6/26/15
10:00 Meet at Wal-Mart in Manassas VA
10:15 Head out to Elliott Knob 38.16652N 79.3192W
12:45 Arrive at Elliott Knob and eat lunch
13:45 Head out to North River Campground 38.339443N 79.20722W
16:00 Arrive at North River Campround >>> Check the place out
16:15 Head out to Brandywine Recreation Area 38.595276N 79.19972W
18:30 Arrive at Brandywine Recreation Area
18:30 Set up camp for the night

6/27/15
11:00 Head out to Lee Ranger District: GWNF
12:30 Arrive at Lee Ranger District: GWNF
12:30 Explore Lee Ranger District pushing North
16:30 Head out to the Cove Campground
17:30 Arrive at Cove Campgound
17:45 Set up Camp
19:00 Explore Cove Campground

6/28/15
11:00 Head out to the Cove Campground trails
13:30 Lunch
15:30 Push back to the trail head to head out for home

This is a loose itinerary that depends on not getting lost. I feel that without it we would just wander around aimlessly. I am planning this trip for the main purpose of scouting out this park to plan a secondary trip in the near future to go mountain bike riding, hiking and camping again. I really wanted to hit Mount Rogers, but that is in deep south VA and I will have to hit that location in the fall.

Any and all comments are welcome. Let me know who is in so we will know to wait for you at the rendezvous point in Manassas, VA.
 
Brandywine Recreation Area: $16 per site per night
Cove Campground: $35 per site per night with an additional fee for adults and minors Check it out here: The Cove Campground
I just realized that the Big Dogs are having an event this same weekend. If you are interested in participating, check it out here: Spring Fling

Full Disclosure: I went to the last Big Dogs event and I was not impressed.

My plan is to arrive at the campground and find a decent campsite. We will head out on our own in the morning since there is a $65 fee to participate in the Big Dogs Spring Fling.

Let me know what you guys think.
 
Brandywine Recreation Area: $16 per site per night
Cove Campground: $35 per site per night with an additional fee for adults and minors Check it out here: The Cove Campground
I just realized that the Big Dogs are having an event this same weekend. If you are interested in participating, check it out here: Spring Fling

Full Disclosure: I went to the last Big Dogs event and I was not impressed.

My plan is to arrive at the campground and find a decent campsite. We will head out on our own in the morning since there is a $65 fee to participate in the Big Dogs Spring Fling.

Let me know what you guys think.


Heading out our own way sound better to me.
 
Pack your rain gear, fellers... it's going to be nasty tomorrow :lookout:

Oh, it was nasty. Fortunately we were able to set up camp without any rain. This weekend definitely DID NOT go as planned and [MENTION=97856]Salman[/MENTION] has a few dents to prove it, but we had a phenomenal weekend!

Full write up to follow, but . . . I have to go earn some more money right now!
 
Well, for those of you who are interested . . .

George Washington National Forest is gorgeous!! This wasn't a surprise to me, but our weekend did NOT go as planned. One of my Jeeper buddies wimped out. Jeeper guys . . . I planned for some rain, but I did NOT plan for the torrential downpour that fell on our heads Friday night. We also met a few bears who took their time checking out our campsite during the night.

We stayed at the Brandywine Recreation Center and it surpassed my every expectation. Beautiful, clean, private, and spacious! There is a small beach on a lake and nearby hiking to a picturesque overlook. Highly recommended!!

[MENTION=97032]hearno[/MENTION] We never got to do the Flagpole because we ran into many road closures and because of our time table we could not reroute to hit the starting point. Will go back and report my progress though!!

My one friend who was willing to join us despite the inclement weather wanted to do more than drive around on gravel. GWNF is gorgeous, but I was itching to get back in the mud myself, to be honest. My good friend [MENTION=97856]Salman[/MENTION] was willing to trek out to the Cove to join us so that is what we did. I learned Wednesday evening that there was a Big Dog event at the Cove all weekend so we decided to join them on Sunday.

NOTE: Willis, the office manager at the Cove, vehemently stressed that NO OFFROADING was allowed without being part of an organized event. I have heard mixed reports, but I don't like pissing people off so we paid the fee and joined the Big Dogs. John (Big Dog event coordinator) gave us a break on the event price so that was cool.

We found a perfect site large enough to accommodate at least 6 vehicles and it was perfect for our group. Camp VII site 7 for those who are interested. Its quiet, remote, and right on the lake.

I attended the Big Dogs Ice Breaker in the early spring and was severely dissapointed. Full Writeup here: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/off-roading/193322-ice-breaker-winchester-va-4-24-4-26-15-a.html I am happy to report that we rolled with a legitimate trail guide who knew exactly what he was doing. Salman and I were stock so he led us through trails that would not damage us too badly. He and the other Level VI Jeeps would break off from us and meet us again. His knowledge of the trails and terrain was very impressive and I felt that my money was well spent during this event.

Salman bent his running boards up pretty good, but I think he had a good time. I stopped short to avoid hitting my spotter and the suspension travel swung my Driver Rear tail light into a tree. Other than that, we are all good!! No CEL. No weird noises. Another fun weekend in the mud and woods. I'm trying to clean up all of my footage and I hope to poste a video later this week. Will attach if anyone is interested to see it.
 
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Well, for those of you who are interested . . .

George Washington National Forest is gorgeous!! This wasn't a surprise to me, but our weekend did NOT go as planned. One of my Jeeper buddies wimped out. Jeeper guys . . . I planned for some rain, but I did NOT plan for the torrential downpour that fell on our heads Friday night. We also met a few bears who took their time checking out our campsite during the night.

We stayed at the Brandywine Recreation Center and it surpassed my every expectation. Beautiful, clean, private, and spacious! There is a small beach on a lake and nearby hiking to a picturesque overlook. Highly recommended!!

[MENTION=97032]hearno[/MENTION] We never got to do the Flagpole because we ran into many road closures and because of our time table we could not reroute to hit the starting point. Will go back and report my progress though!!

My one friend who was willing to join us despite the inclement weather wanted to do more than drive around on gravel. GWNF is gorgeous, but I was itching to get back in the mud myself, to be honest. My good friend [MENTION=97856]Salman[/MENTION] was willing to trek out to the Cove to join us so that is what we did. I learned Wednesday evening that there was a Big Dog event at the Cove all weekend so we decided to join them on Sunday.

NOTE: Willis, the office manager at the Cove, vehemently stressed that NO OFFROADING was allowed without being part of an organized event. I have heard mixed reports, but I don't like pissing people off so we paid the fee and joined the Big Dogs. John (Big Dog event coordinator) gave us a break on the event price so that was cool.

We found a perfect site large enough to accommodate at least 6 vehicles and it was perfect for our group. Camp VII site 7 for those who are interested. Its quiet, remote, and right on the lake.

I attended the Big Dogs Ice Breaker in the early spring and was severely dissapointed. Full Writeup here: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/off-roading/193322-ice-breaker-winchester-va-4-24-4-26-15-a.html I am happy to report that we rolled with a legitimate trail guide who knew exactly what he was doing. Salman and I were stock so he led us through trails that would not damage us too badly. He and the other Level VI Jeeps would break off from us and meet us again. His knowledge of the trails and terrain was very impressive and I felt that my money was well spent during this event.

Salman bent his running boards up pretty good, but I think he had a good time. I stopped short to avoid hitting my spotter and the suspension travel swung my Driver Rear tail light into a tree. Other than that, we are all good!! No CEL. No weird noises. Another fun weekend in the mud and woods. I'm trying to clean up all of my footage and I hope to poste a video later this week. Will attach if anyone is interested to see it.

Alright... enough jibber-jabber. Where are the pics? :popcorn:
 
Its finally here. I'm just getting used to the video editing software that I have access to so here is my first crack at creating a video. Let me know what you guys think.
[MENTION=97856]Salman[/MENTION]
[MENTION=124947]20DYNAMITE07[/MENTION]
[MENTION=73015]Xetabur[/MENTION]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWAB3UH-MNw

be sure to set your YouTube to 1080p. Mine defaults at 480. FYI
 

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