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I have to be misunderstanding you...Are you actually saying that the government are the wolves and the sheepdogs are the civilians with guns and should take up arms against the government? AND ...the true enemy is the government? AND we are mentally ill prepared if we don't realize these 2 things and use our weapons to rectify them?

This post needs some "splaining to me" If I'm misunderstanding please correct me. If not, please give me more of this position, what it solves and when it's necessary and who determines when it's time to take these radical and Waco or Columbine-ish actions.

The true purpose of government is to serve you, unfortunately its not the case.

When you exchange liberty for security you deserve neither.
--Benjamin Franklin

Also, if you think you will be able to make change by either voting red or blue again, you are gravely mistaken.

Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.
--Plato

My one dollar,
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
 
The true purpose of government is to serve you, unfortunately its not the case.

When you exchange liberty for security you deserve neither.
--Benjamin Franklin

Also, if you think you will be able to make change by either voting red or blue again, you are gravely mistaken.

Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.
--Plato

My one dollar,
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.


These are all well put statements from other men. I was kinda hoping for a window into your mind Sir. A little more on this viewpoint. I can pull quotes for myself of great men making one line statements.

Not trying to start a war with you, just asking for you to elaborate and use your words to do so like me and everyone else in this thread

I'm a real gun enthusiast, collector, safety believer, NRA member, etc... so that's not in question here. I also fight for what I believe and will stand up for causes I believe in. I just don't use my weapon as an offensive option. I am not military or law enforcement, therefore, my weapon should NEVER be used in an offensive manner...strictly defense for civilians is my point plain and simple. We've had quite a bit of offensive statements and viewpoints and that's the difference in viewpoints in my mind
 
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These are all well put statements from other men. I was kinda hoping for a window into your mind Sir. A little more on this viewpoint. I can pull quotes for myself of great men making one line statements.

Not trying to start a war with you, just asking for you to elaborate and use your words to do so like me and everyone else in this thread

I'm a real gun enthusiast, collector, safety believer, NRA member, etc... so that's not in question here. I also fight for what I believe and will stand up for causes I believe in. I just don't use my weapon as an offensive option. I am not military or law enforcement, therefore, my weapon should NEVER be used in an offensive manner...strictly defense for civilians is my point plain and simple. We've had quite a bit of offensive statements and viewpoints and that's the difference in viewpoints in my mind

Those quotes are short and sweet, and where used to illustrate my stance on the subject of tyrants and liberty, which imo, is the message behind the OP's quote.

I am a true believer that democracy in itself is a great concept, but in practice it fails. Many systems came to be, but ultimately, the power always resides on top of the pyramid. I ask you a simple question, If you where to be president or king, would you allow the people to carry guns?

What if these people started to think for themselves rather then just listening to the television? It seems we as a society have become great at accepting information and not questioning or criticizing it! What if we disagreed with what is going on. Would we be successful taking the streets screaming and getting gassed or shot at because the army or law enforcement plays for the OTHER team? How would we accomplish what we want? Do you think your representative represents you? or the big interests that control THEM.

If we are unarmed, uneducated, divided and manipulated, do you think we would stand a chance? Radical change is needed, history repeats itself, but unfortunately we don't like to read and think(ignorance is bliss comes to mind).

If you look at all the revolutions that have taken place, even if it benefited the people for only a short period of time....they all have something in common.....Freedom is paid by blood!

But who knows, after all these years we as a species repeat mistakes, human nature? Ignorance part of a defence mechanism? But let me tell you this, the government, or whatever you want to call it, have LEARNED and refined their methods over millennia.

A great paradigm shift is needed, we need to stick together, we need to get educated on what matters....
 
Too many words...my eyes hurt.

"If we are unarmed, uneducated, divided and manipulated, do you think we would stand a chance? Radical change is needed, history repeats itself, but unfortunately we don't like to read and think(ignorance is bliss comes to mind)."

IF!?!?!? No if's about it...Most politicians want this...keeps them in power. Just look back at history.

Sorry for the interruption...

We now return you to the regularly scheduled program...
 
Too many words...my eyes hurt.

"If we are unarmed, uneducated, divided and manipulated, do you think we would stand a chance? Radical change is needed, history repeats itself, but unfortunately we don't like to read and think(ignorance is bliss comes to mind)."

IF!?!?!? No if's about it...Most politicians want this...keeps them in power. Just look back at history.

Sorry for the interruption...

We now return you to the regularly scheduled program...

IF!?!?!? No if's about it...Most politicians want this...keeps them in power. Just look back at history.

Precisely what I was insinuating....

Sorry for the interruption...
We now return you to the regularly scheduled program...


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