Silverado vs my 4runner
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ToyotaDan
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Falls said:
Thanks much!
You know whats funny. The more research I do in the Silverado area, the weirder it gets. A 50/50 split of people having no problems and people having lots of them.
On the flip side, Toyota problems are far and few in between. I love my 4runner. Never an issue. I think my bug is gone for this Silverado. I will stick with the 4runner - which has only 26k miles and wait till 2008 -2009 for the tundra.
Thai
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Now, i know this sounds bad...but, Toyota has yet to prove that they can make a real-world tough work truck. The previous Tundra, for lack of better words, was a daisy among men. It was fairly reliable and comfy, but it was not equipped to do HD stuff. Don't get me wrong, i was trying to push my brother into getting one of the last '06 Tundra TRD because he only needs it for house duty (Home Depot stops, etc.), not for towing or heavy cargo.
If i was in the market for a new fullsize truck, then i would definitely wait a year or so before buying since all of them are 1st year models (except Ford). But, if Chevy, Ford, or Dodge do decent in reliability, then i would go with them over the new Tundra or any Asian truck. Three reasons: 1. Americans know how to build a rough-and-tough work truck...just check out your local construction site...how many American trucks do you see and how many Asian truck do you see; 2. Tundra's frame is still a big question for me. 3. No diesel is offered in any Tundra (yet).
If i was in the market for midsize truck, then i would go for Nissan Frontier. Frontier = all the goods of Tacoma but with fully-boxed frame and rear disc brakes!
Power is good and all, but i want a strong foundation. And remember, until recently, DOHC engines have not been favored in work trucks because of lack of low end torque and may not last as long as pushrod-design engines. (Of course, a true work truck should be diesel-powered IMHO.) The new Tundra has a bunch of high-whiz tech stuff (variable valve timing, etc.) which may close the gap (or even exceed?) in terms of low pulling power but only time will tell.
If i was in the market for a new fullsize truck, then i would definitely wait a year or so before buying since all of them are 1st year models (except Ford). But, if Chevy, Ford, or Dodge do decent in reliability, then i would go with them over the new Tundra or any Asian truck. Three reasons: 1. Americans know how to build a rough-and-tough work truck...just check out your local construction site...how many American trucks do you see and how many Asian truck do you see; 2. Tundra's frame is still a big question for me. 3. No diesel is offered in any Tundra (yet).
If i was in the market for midsize truck, then i would go for Nissan Frontier. Frontier = all the goods of Tacoma but with fully-boxed frame and rear disc brakes!
Power is good and all, but i want a strong foundation. And remember, until recently, DOHC engines have not been favored in work trucks because of lack of low end torque and may not last as long as pushrod-design engines. (Of course, a true work truck should be diesel-powered IMHO.) The new Tundra has a bunch of high-whiz tech stuff (variable valve timing, etc.) which may close the gap (or even exceed?) in terms of low pulling power but only time will tell.
I'm not toyota dan (duh) but my next vehicle is a 4Runner. I presently drive an 04 Avy. While its OK and does what it's supposed to do, the quality just isn't there. I spent some time in a new GMT900 truck and I just wasn't impressed. Even brand new, the door rattled when I closed it.Uneek said:
brad6841
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I realize this thred is old but being a Silverado and 4Runner owner I have to put in my 2 cents.
If your looking at a lifted Silverado I would shy away from that, once you put a lift on anything you have to look at your maintenance costs going up. Escepially on the Silverado, one main issue would be the front hub assembly, once any type of larger tire is applied to them they tend to fail...often. Plus there is no type of maintenance that can be done to them, they must be replaced at a cost of well over the $200 mark. Plus you have to look the the wear on tie rod ends, which I believe can be upgraded, but that is another cost you must incur. Both of these have failed on my truck due to a larger tire that I ran for a short period of time. The tie rods failed under warranty and were replaced by the dealer, and the hub assembly failed a short while ago and was replaced by me. I now have 86000 miles on her and those are the only issues I've experienced from running the larger tires.
Now as for regular Silverados, I would have to say I'm extremely happy with mine. Aside from a few issues, most under warranty, I have had no major problems with mine. The biggest issue, thus far, has been the fuel level sensor, which is a problem with just about all the pre 03 Silverados. From what I've read about the newer models the fuel level sensor has been redesigned to not fail the way the older models did. Other than regular maintenance I've had nothing wrong with mine.
I'm not saying that my Chevy is anywhere near the level of quality that most Toyotas are manufactured with, but as someone said above it seems Toyota may be slipping a little. I really notcied it on my dad's 01 Sequoia. He previously owned a 94 4Runner and even after 135000 miles there were no rattles, squeeks, shimmys, nothing.....now on his Sequoia with only 83000 he has a few squeeks in the dash and the rear cargo area doors do not stay closed. The is just my observation
Hope this helps, if you've not alreay decided. I personally would stick with the 4Runner, unless you were looking at a regular ride height Silvy.
If your looking at a lifted Silverado I would shy away from that, once you put a lift on anything you have to look at your maintenance costs going up. Escepially on the Silverado, one main issue would be the front hub assembly, once any type of larger tire is applied to them they tend to fail...often. Plus there is no type of maintenance that can be done to them, they must be replaced at a cost of well over the $200 mark. Plus you have to look the the wear on tie rod ends, which I believe can be upgraded, but that is another cost you must incur. Both of these have failed on my truck due to a larger tire that I ran for a short period of time. The tie rods failed under warranty and were replaced by the dealer, and the hub assembly failed a short while ago and was replaced by me. I now have 86000 miles on her and those are the only issues I've experienced from running the larger tires.
Now as for regular Silverados, I would have to say I'm extremely happy with mine. Aside from a few issues, most under warranty, I have had no major problems with mine. The biggest issue, thus far, has been the fuel level sensor, which is a problem with just about all the pre 03 Silverados. From what I've read about the newer models the fuel level sensor has been redesigned to not fail the way the older models did. Other than regular maintenance I've had nothing wrong with mine.
I'm not saying that my Chevy is anywhere near the level of quality that most Toyotas are manufactured with, but as someone said above it seems Toyota may be slipping a little. I really notcied it on my dad's 01 Sequoia. He previously owned a 94 4Runner and even after 135000 miles there were no rattles, squeeks, shimmys, nothing.....now on his Sequoia with only 83000 he has a few squeeks in the dash and the rear cargo area doors do not stay closed. The is just my observation
Hope this helps, if you've not alreay decided. I personally would stick with the 4Runner, unless you were looking at a regular ride height Silvy.
gizmopt2002
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The comment from Thai saying about Asian trucks at construction sites, I am currently visiting family in Vegas and went to see some homes on the west edge, where they are still building them, and say alot of old Toyota trucks. I wasn't exactly surprised though, because those things I've seen literally blown up and still run.
Also, I as by the Luxor and saw a lifted tundra, with mud terrain tires on it, and it was huge, compared to stock.
Also, I as by the Luxor and saw a lifted tundra, with mud terrain tires on it, and it was huge, compared to stock.
