Thai
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As expected, another death...and now CDC has a warning: CDC warns against using e-cigarettes after 3rd vaping-related death reported | TheHill
Vaping, who else does it?
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I vaped for a few years but made my own fluid buying flavors, nicotine, pg and vg. It tasted good and you know what you are using. I also made my own coils using quality wire and got good cotton, not bleached. I still have top quality equipment, even though I quit.
You aren't supposed to inhale vape. It is absorbed in the mouth and not in the lungs. Old habits are hard. The issue isnt vaping, it's what they are vaping. If you want to smoke pot, smoke it. That is an issue with thc additives. Also, you cant just buy magic vape drops on the street corner and think they are okay.
One article I read mentioned diacetyl. That is easily avoided if you make your own and most quality juice manufacturers don't use it. If you buy some knockoff Chinese fluid you don't know what you have.
Maybe they should put this much time in to cigarettes. They would be banned. They have ammonia, for absorption, among other things. They know they are bad but I guess the vape industry hasn't learned the secret of the under table payoff.
You aren't supposed to inhale vape. It is absorbed in the mouth and not in the lungs. Old habits are hard. The issue isnt vaping, it's what they are vaping. If you want to smoke pot, smoke it. That is an issue with thc additives. Also, you cant just buy magic vape drops on the street corner and think they are okay.
One article I read mentioned diacetyl. That is easily avoided if you make your own and most quality juice manufacturers don't use it. If you buy some knockoff Chinese fluid you don't know what you have.
Maybe they should put this much time in to cigarettes. They would be banned. They have ammonia, for absorption, among other things. They know they are bad but I guess the vape industry hasn't learned the secret of the under table payoff.
Ripper238
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I use a custom shop that only uses VG and 3-4 things in it to give it a tobacco flavor (not strawberry crap). These store brands have all kinds of stuff in them that can cause real issues. Get it custom and know whats in it, also use a quality cartridge or make your own. It helped me quit smoking cigarettes.
YBstranded
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Smoked for 20 years, then switched to vaping with a cheap Juul about 6 months ago. Loved it at first, but the Juul cartridges are expensive. Then a vape shop clerk showed me how to re-fill the old Juul cartridges. Now, a $10 bottle of juice will last me 2-3 weeks.
But, I've noticed that my lungs are aching lately and I have had to increase the frequency of vaping to negate the effects of nicotine addiction.
Not going to end well, I'm afraid. Love not smelling like smoke and the relative ease of use and decreased cost, but I have been grouchy for six months and now my lungs hurt.
But, I've noticed that my lungs are aching lately and I have had to increase the frequency of vaping to negate the effects of nicotine addiction.
Not going to end well, I'm afraid. Love not smelling like smoke and the relative ease of use and decreased cost, but I have been grouchy for six months and now my lungs hurt.
Thai
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Dude, you need to see doctor and have x-ray done of your lungs!! STOP now. Go see doctor.
pedagogue_
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I switched last year from camel reds to a juul. Helped dull the craving a little for a while, then I quit that too. Good luck on your journey brother, healthier is always happier.
ToyotaBrah
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What really, really irritates me about vapers is their arrogant understanding that it is alright for them to vape anywhere. The vapors still disperse in the air much like second-hand smoke, and can be inhaled by others in the area who are not vaping.
Also, I find it unfortunate that people only will change behavior when an institute (in this case, the CDC), informs the public to stop. Where did common sense go? You're breathing in vapors that have unknown ingredients. Ugh..I could go on, but what's the point.
Also, I find it unfortunate that people only will change behavior when an institute (in this case, the CDC), informs the public to stop. Where did common sense go? You're breathing in vapors that have unknown ingredients. Ugh..I could go on, but what's the point.
Ripper238
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I don't think it's just their arrogance that it's okay to vape anywhere. It's that they don't really care. Should they?
People do many things that are bad for themselves and others. Just imagine the amount of terrible toxins that our 4Runners give off without care to those poor Prius drivers who care so much about there health and environment. We're all just terrible people.
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Thai
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More bad news:
Users of Mint, Menthol E-Cigs Exposed to Unacceptably High Levels of Carcinogen
By Amy Orciari Herman
Edited by David G. Fairchild, MD, MPH
People who vape mint- and menthol-flavored e-cigarettes are exposed to potentially dangerous levels of the carcinogenic compound pulegone, according to a JAMA Internal Medicine study.
Pulegone, derived from the essential oils of mint plants, has been shown to cause tumors in rodents. Synthetic pulegone was banned as a food additive in 2018, and its levels are limited in the flavorings for traditional cigarettes.
In the new study, researchers found that levels of pulegone in five mint or menthol e-cigarette products and one mint smokeless tobacco product were higher than those in combustible cigarettes. They were also higher than what the FDA deems as unacceptable for synthetic pulegone in food.
The authors conclude, "Our findings appear to establish health risks associated with pulegone intake and concerns that the FDA should address before suggesting mint- and menthol-flavored e-cigarettes and smokeless tobacco products as alternatives for people who use combustible tobacco products."
Separately, N.Y. Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced on Sunday that he would take immediate steps to ban sales of flavored e-cigarettes (other than tobacco and menthol) across the state. And on Monday, the CDC activated its Emergency Operations Center to help deal with the current outbreak of vaping-related lung illness.
Users of Mint, Menthol E-Cigs Exposed to Unacceptably High Levels of Carcinogen
By Amy Orciari Herman
Edited by David G. Fairchild, MD, MPH
People who vape mint- and menthol-flavored e-cigarettes are exposed to potentially dangerous levels of the carcinogenic compound pulegone, according to a JAMA Internal Medicine study.
Pulegone, derived from the essential oils of mint plants, has been shown to cause tumors in rodents. Synthetic pulegone was banned as a food additive in 2018, and its levels are limited in the flavorings for traditional cigarettes.
In the new study, researchers found that levels of pulegone in five mint or menthol e-cigarette products and one mint smokeless tobacco product were higher than those in combustible cigarettes. They were also higher than what the FDA deems as unacceptable for synthetic pulegone in food.
The authors conclude, "Our findings appear to establish health risks associated with pulegone intake and concerns that the FDA should address before suggesting mint- and menthol-flavored e-cigarettes and smokeless tobacco products as alternatives for people who use combustible tobacco products."
Separately, N.Y. Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced on Sunday that he would take immediate steps to ban sales of flavored e-cigarettes (other than tobacco and menthol) across the state. And on Monday, the CDC activated its Emergency Operations Center to help deal with the current outbreak of vaping-related lung illness.
Yes they should care. I doubt you'd like to walk through someone continually hosing themselves in a cloud of perfume every minute. Well, I don't care to walk through your cloud of Mango Berry Blast olfactory assassination either.
canadian.bacon
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i know (not directly) about a case that spent like 5 weeks with lung complications in the hospital, lots of my friends completely ignored it and still vape today 
Nicotine isn’t the “dangerous” part, other than the fact that it’s highly addictive.
Likely similar to caffeine (also highly addictive) in terms of negative health consequences.
It is the carcinogens from burning tobacco and chemical additives that causes most of the serious diseases and death.
Two Doctors on A Mission to Set the Record Straight about Smokeless Tobacco and Its Impact on Public Safety. | HuffPost
Vaping was my way to quit smoking too
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