What lug nuts did you use on your pro comp wheels? A Horror Story.

Liq

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Ill start this post off with the back story:

I Called 4Wheel Parts and ordered ProComp 7105's and made an appointment to have my tires taken off the factory salt eaten wheels and put on the new 7105's.

I show up, drop off my keys, wait a few HOURS, and finally they are done. After I pay, they tell me to be sure to re-tighten the lugs after 50 miles. The wheels may become loose during the break in period. I agree and sign the receipt saying they told me about it. then i hear, "ohh by the way, we stripped a wheel stud, its only 1 so its not a safety risk, bring it back and we'll fix it" i'm like well that sucks but ok whatever... I leave and go home.

The next day after work, I don't want to drive down there in rush hour traffic so I tell them i'm coming in Friday. On my way home guy in a blue taco pulls up next to me at a light and signals me to roll down my window, he says my rear right is wobbling and looks like its out of balance. I keep my window down and slowly drive the final 1/4 mile home. I get out and go look at the wheel, everything looks fine aside from the fact the all 6 lugs are at different depths around the wheel. Im like, ****! I should have tightened them earlier. I push on the wheel and sure enough its loose as hell, without the truck being jacked up i can push the wheel back and fourth and it moves over an inch. I get out the lug wrench and try to tighten them. They wont move, in OR out! all 6 frozen solid. I go to the other side and try to loosen them as a point of reference and cant get them to move either. I call 4WheelParts tell them my wheel is lose and i cant tighten the nuts because i'm afraid ill break the studs. They tell me to get it down there ASAP so they can fix it. I'm pissed tired and its late so i tell them ill bring it down tomorrow.

My girlfriend follows behind me as i limp down the road super slow, she sees how bad its wobbling and decides its not safe to drive 20 miles (or any miles for that matter) on a wheel that loose so I crawl into the Toyota dealership which was right by the house. I tell them my story, they take it in on a dolly. My girlfriend takes me home. A few hours later Toyota calls be back "when we took the lugs off that wheel and all the studs broke right off" I had a feeling that was going to happen because when i tried to tighten them i knew they were frozen. They also said that all the other lugs were also very tight and they might have to replace all the studs

The guys at Toyota ended up replacing all 6 studs on that hub and because i didn't have any spare gorilla nuts that fit in the procomp wheel, they had to put my spare tire on with the original lugs, which I luckily still had. 400 some odd dollars later i thank those guys for helping me out in a pinch and go home.

I call 4WheelParts and tell them ill be down. My GF follows me down in case I have to leave the truck and for moral support. I go in with the bill from Toyota and a bag of 6 lugs with studs snapped off stuck inside them and drop them on the counter. I show him the wheel and explain there was no way i was driving down to them to fix it with it in that state and that i had no choice but to take it to Toyota to have the work done. Now I work in design and production and understand things happen, I just want to know why this happened and what they did to cause it. They disappear into the shop for 15 minutes and are back and fourth between my truck and the shop. They acknowledge the problem and tell me to leave the truck with them for 3 days, i reluctantly agree. They make a copy of the Toyota receipt and Im off.

A few days later I show up to pick it up. They ended up replacing another 10 studs. Their conclusion was the way the lug nuts sat in the rim caused a false torque reading on the air ratchet and they over torqued them. I put one of the lug nuts in the rim to see how it fit and it looked fine to me. I cant tell if this is BS or not. They look like standard Gorilla locking lugs M12 x 1.5

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Does anyone else have 7105's? Im wondering what lugs your using or if you had any problems with them not seating correctly?
 
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Do some reading on hub centric wheels (what our T4R has) v/s lug centric (what the Pro Comps are). Basically there is a lip on our hub that the stock wheel rides on and the lugs hold it in place. The lip carries the weight instead of the lugs. This is the reason I have not put after market wheels on my truck yet. I remember reading that others have replaced the stock lugs with some after market ones (stronger I guess) but I abandoned the idea of new wheels for now. Hopefully someone with real experience will chime in and help you. Sorry for your trouble, at least the wheels stayed on. :dammit:
 
Man, what an F'n ordeal. I'd be checking the wheel real close to make sure the wobbling didn't egg out the stud holes in the wheel.
 
i read your post the other day and was really thinking about what i was going to do when i replaced my stock 15" steel wheels on my '88 4runner.

the stock wheels were being held on with 2 different type of lugs and at least two wheels only had 5 lugs.

i was really worried about breaking off a stud or studs.

i replaced the stock steel wheels with 16" steels from discount tire which i had my wife's old BFGs mounted on to.

i planned on using the gorilla lugs that i bought from costco over a year ago.

i'm glad someone posted about hub centric vs lug centric.

the steels i got from discount tire are lug centric, i believe, and i took my time mounting the wheels and did everything by hand as i don't have any air tools worthing using for this type of job.

i mounted the wheel and placed a gorilla lug on the top and hand tightened and then wiggled and tightened a little more.

i then added another lug, hand tightened and wiggled and then tightened both.

i did this for all 6 lugs on all 4 wheels.

i lowered the truck down a bit...but not its full weight on the wheel and then torqued to 45, 55, 65, 75 and then 85 ft/lbs using my sears craftsman torque wrench.

after lowering the truck fully on its wheel i then rechecked the lugs w the torque wrench.

i took the 4runner for a drive around the block and down the freeway and everything felt good.

after parking in the driveway i checked torque again.

everything is great!!!

joel
 
There is a bunch of guys on toyota120.com with the same wheel but have had no problems, you can try posting there and ask them.

Your lucky your wheel did not fly off, a few guys I know had that happen to them on the highway.
 
I have the 7105s, but I used lugs from Wheelers Offroad that I ordered. I have had zero issues w/ about 6000 miles on the wheels/tires so far.


Sorry to hear you had troubles, I love the look of these wheels, glad to see some others running them too.
 
I recently added 7105. So far so good.
Used Gorilla, 12mm x 1.5 68137LB is model number, I believe.

Thx for the heads up, I'll keep a close eye on them, but so far so good.
 
Sounds like the new rim was thinner and the lugnuts bottomed out on the studs just as they contacted the rim. The monkeys on the impact wrenches don't usually take time to set the proper torque, they just leave them on max for loosening. You are lucky the lugs didn't start snapping off while you were driving. I'm not a fan of using hub-centric hubs with lug-centric wheels, but it can work. Just make sure the nuts are right.
 
Yea luckily 4WP couldn't argue the fact that they owed me $400 for the stud replacement and cut me a check. It was clearly unsafe to drive and could have caused a lot more damage like you said a wheel flying off on the highway. But now that I know, I plan on keeping an eye on the torque and never letting anyone rotate my tires.

weifert thanks for the part number, i'm going to order a spare set "just in case"
 
Sucks, but it could have been much worse. I just bought a truck from a seller 2hrs away from my home and on the way home the wheel actually fell off while I was driving. It was a Pro Comp wheel on a 4wd 2008 Silverado. I was going about 45mph when it happened and I got lucky that the truck did not flip *(6 inch lift). I have since purchased ugly stock wheels...
 

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