Agreed with Brian. After reading about manslaughter in FL it is going to be hard for that to stick also. It has been made clear on both side that self-defense is the big hurdle here. No matter how you feel about it, the evidence says other wise at this point. I still think he is a Dip shit in the first place (Z) for following this teen around in the first place but it doesn't make him a murderer. An dick for following a person around yes, a bigger dip shit for getting into a fight when you have a gun on you in the first place,yes. I think he had this thought that "Oh, shit this was the idea I had in mind now I have a gun on me, he is beating my A#$, and he might use it on me because he now knows it is there"

We will see what happens. I'm still flabbergasted that the state tried to pull the 3rd degree murder at the last second. That was some BS! It is a sing of sheer desperation on there part to find something to make stick because the elements of the crime of murder 2 are not going to fly and either is manslaughter because of the elements needed to convict. We will see....

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