Doin' the Tundra Brake Swap - Autozone/Duralast

Blute · Jul 27, 2013

So the brakes on my '98 Runner are pretty worn, squeaking bad, and the rotors are warped. I decided to go ahead and do the Tundra brake swap to 199mm pads (I want them to fit my stock split 3-spoke rims, so decided against the 231mm pads).

I shopped around for parts, and decided on just getting everything from Autozone.com, and thought I got a pretty good deal on the following:

Duralast #C9689 calipers, drivers side $75.99 (+ $30 core)
Duralast #C9688 calipers, pass side $75.99 (+ $30 core)
Duralast #31267 rotors, 2x $53.99
Duralast Gold Cmax pads #DGC812 $54.99
Online coupon discount "COOL20" ($20 off per $100 spent, max discount $60) - $60
Free shipping

Final total w/tax and after returning the 4Runner cores will be $276.53.

I thought that was a pretty sweet deal. Anyone wanting to take advantage of that coupon for stuff from Autozone has until 7/30/13, so act fast!

Now let's hope the install goes smoothly...

PitbullRescuer · Jul 28, 2013

Nice, you'll love the upgrade. I had Tundra 199's on my '97 Limited. I did the 231's on my '99. The 231's do fit the split spokes with just a little grinding of some extra material.

Install is straight forward. Good luck.

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ALBPM · Jul 28, 2013

I went the total Auto Zone route back in 2011.

I highly recommend not using the Duralast Gold Cmax pads they will scour the rotors. The Duralast Gold Cmax pads have a lifetime warranty because the wear out the rotors.

Get some Akebono ceramic pads instead:

http://www.placeforbrakes.com/product.php?pk=1683&cmk=32094&car_year=2006

Drcoffee · Jul 28, 2013

Compare the rotor thickness between the two. No comparison!

thebaine · Jul 28, 2013

Is it customary to only do the rear or front brakes with this upgrade? Or do most do all 4 brakes? Or is this a dumb question haha...

PitbullRescuer · Jul 28, 2013

Fronts.

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afg10000 · Jul 28, 2013

I have to say for the upgrade and money, all your really getting with the 199's is bigger rotors. Your not really getting any more stopping power. The 13WE's are the same as the OEM Runner calipers. I do agree with the ceramics. I'm pretty sure the Toyota OEM pads are semi-metallic-

Blute · Jul 29, 2013

afg10000 said:
I have to say for the upgrade and money, all your really getting with the 199's is bigger rotors. Your not really getting any more stopping power. The 13WE's are the same as the OEM Runner calipers. I do agree with the ceramics. I'm pretty sure the Toyota OEM pads are semi-metallic-

What do you mean by you "agree with the ceramics"? Not sure I understand what you would recommend for pads...

the great him · Jul 29, 2013

he means he recommends ceramic pads as do i

richbasv · Jul 29, 2013

The Duralast Gold Cmax pads have a lifetime warranty because the wear out the rotors.

KidVermicious · Jul 29, 2013

afg10000 said:
I have to say for the upgrade and money, all your really getting with the 199's is bigger rotors. Your not really getting any more stopping power. The 13WE's are the same as the OEM Runner calipers. I do agree with the ceramics. I'm pretty sure the Toyota OEM pads are semi-metallic-

Bigger rotors = less brake fade. I've never had any trouble with fresh brakes stopping me on any truck I've owned, but I've definitely had trouble on several of them with brakes fading during long descents. A bigger rotor will soak up heat better and dissipate it faster, which will give you much better stopping power halfway down the canyon.

Robb235 · Jul 29, 2013

ALBPM said:
I went the total Auto Zone route back in 2011.

I highly recommend not using the Duralast Gold Cmax pads they will scour the rotors. The Duralast Gold Cmax pads have a lifetime warranty because the wear out the rotors.

Get some Akebono ceramic pads instead:

http://www.placeforbrakes.com/product.php?pk=1683&cmk=32094&car_year=2006

+1

Don't use the CMAX. Go with the Duralast Gold pads instead. I used to work at AutoZone, and I know those pads are crap. I made the mistake of putting the CMAX pads on my GF's Jeep Cherokee a few years ago. She went to college on top of a mountain, and the CMAX pads faded horribly. It was outright dangerous. I swapped them out for the Duralast Gold pads and instantly the problem went away.

I used Duralast Gold pads on my 231mm upgrade.

audiness · Jul 29, 2013

I used EBC "Green" pads, and they are awesome. A bit expensive though.

Blute · Jul 29, 2013

Thanks for the comments everyone.

I think I will take back the Cmax pads and exchange them for the regular Duralast gold pads (#DG812). The regular pads are still ceramic, but I guess they are a different composition than the Cmax? They don't come with any hardware either, but I can buy the hardware separately if needed. The calipers may come with some of the hardware anyways, I will have to see.

Hey, and they're cheaper too

Blute · Jul 29, 2013

Blute said:
Thanks for the comments everyone.

I think I will take back the Cmax pads and exchange them for the regular Duralast gold pads (#DG812). The regular pads are still ceramic, but I guess they are a different composition than the Cmax? They don't come with any hardware either, but I can buy the hardware separately if needed. The calipers may come with some of the hardware anyways, I will have to see.

Hey, and they're cheaper too

So at lunch, for fun I stopped by the local Autozone and looked at the Duralast gold and gold cmax pads. To me, the pad material looked identical on each version. Although the Cmax are supposed to be "premium ceramic" whereas the gold are just "ceramic", according to website info. The shim backing material is a little different on each. The Cmax pads also come with some hardware and a packet of lube. Both pads have completely flat surfaces, no beveled edges.

I just got online with the Autozone chat person, and he said the composition of the pad material is the same on both the Cmax and regular Gold versions of these pads. So if this is true, I guess I can either avoid using these pads if I'm concerned and get something else, or just buy the gold pads and see how it goes. Heck, they are only $39!

tre9er · Jul 29, 2013

PitbullRescuer said:
The 231's do fit the split spokes with just a little grinding of some extra material.

I'm curious about this. I suppose I can search for it, but if you care to enlighten us, that would be cool, too.

Robb235 · Jul 30, 2013

Blute said:
So at lunch, for fun I stopped by the local Autozone and looked at the Duralast gold and gold cmax pads. To me, the pad material looked identical on each version. Although the Cmax are supposed to be "premium ceramic" whereas the gold are just "ceramic", according to website info. The shim backing material is a little different on each. The Cmax pads also come with some hardware and a packet of lube. Both pads have completely flat surfaces, no beveled edges.

I just got online with the Autozone chat person, and he said the composition of the pad material is the same on both the Cmax and regular Gold versions of these pads. So if this is true, I guess I can either avoid using these pads if I'm concerned and get something else, or just buy the gold pads and see how it goes. Heck, they are only $39!

I'm telling you man, don't go with the CMAX, lol.

the great him · Jul 30, 2013

hell id stay away from vato zone for anything other thank a air freshener, but thats just me.

Blute · Jul 30, 2013

So I'm still looking at other options...

Raybestos rotors #96931R are only $38.13 at Amazon.
Amazon.com: Raybestos 96931R Professional Grade Disc Brake Rotor: Automotive
Raybestos pads #PGD812C are only $31.07 at Amazon.
Amazon.com: Raybestos PGD812C Professional Grade Ceramic Disc Brake Pad Set: Automotive

Anybody have any experience or opinions on these rotors or pads? I found some positive feedback for the rotors on the forum, but nothing on the pads.

Amazon also has Raybestos calipers, both loaded and semi-loaded, their prices are decent, and they have no core charges. Problem w/ the loaded calipers is one of them doesn't ship for like 1-2 months. On the semi-loaded calipers, the price is ok but I can get the Duralast ones for about the same price at Autozone w/ the online coupon. I kind of like the idea of getting the Duralast ones, just in case I have to return them to the local Autozone if they don't fit under my wheels.

I looked at rockauto.com, but their shipping costs kill them. Plus I don't want to have to return calipers to them for the core refund.

I also scoped out the Akebono pads at PepBoys, but ruled them out as the surface of the pad is tapered at both edges. I want some that are flat all the way across the surface.

I ruled out the Cmax pads, thanks to folks input. If I go with the Duralast pads I will just get the regular gold ones.

madetomeasure · Jul 30, 2013

Those Raybestos rotors from Amazon are what I used,
I have no complaints whatsoever.

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