01-09-2019, 10:49 PM
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How the hell did I lose 2" of ride height?
I have an OME lift 3" all around(3 yrs old roughly) with medium coils in front. Had the heavy shocks in the rear but swapped to Bilsteins about a year in. 4xInnovations bumpers front and rear, but no winch yet- going to upgrade front this spring to handle the extra weight.
I recently tried to get an alignment at a buddies shop, but he called and said the LCA bolts were frozen and he needed to cut them off and replace the control arms. I said ok fine, he wouldn't BS me, I've known him my whole life, right? So he swaps them, aligns the front and rotates the tires. Over a grand in work. When I pick up my truck, he tells me there is some nasty tire rub(235/85/16) on the driver side and I should probably pull the lower bolt on my fender flares to avoid tire damage.
Strange, I had zero rub for the first 15k miles on the new tires...
Sure enough I drive out of there and there's some awful rubbing close to full lock, but after removing the bolt and hammering the pinch weld its still there. Starting to tear into my fender flares now. Tonight at the car wash I notice the front tires seem pretty tucked into the wheel wells compared to the rear. So FINALLY I break out the tape and my rear is still at 37" to top of the fenders, but the fronts are at 35".
The shop obviously f*cked something up, but what the hell could cause a drop of two inches?
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01-10-2019, 02:13 AM
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He used the standard stock parts?
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01-10-2019, 08:41 AM
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I'm intrigued to hear the end of this...
I'm also intrigued with how you could've left the shop without first visually noticing the 2" difference in height or notice the rake when driving.
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01-10-2019, 09:16 AM
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Did you have hockey puck lift spacers above struts that were eliminated on reassembly?
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01-10-2019, 09:19 AM
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It does seem like some spacers where removed but that should only be about an inch lost.
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01-10-2019, 01:47 PM
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You shouldn't have rubbing issue with that tire size. You'll want to get more caster put in the alignment to move the wheels forward.
As for the height issue... measure from the center of the hub to the fender lip to get ride of tire size issues. What are you getting?
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01-10-2019, 03:03 PM
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Quote:
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It does seem like some spacers where removed but that should only be about an inch lost.
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Doesn't 1" spacer equal about 2" lift?
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01-10-2019, 05:20 PM
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Doesn't 1" spacer equal about 2" lift?
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If the spacer is in the coil than yea but not if sitting on top I don't think.
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1990 Eagle Talon Tsi- E316G @ 32psi E85 Tuned, 272 cams, ECMlink v3.0, 405whp - Gave back to Brother
2012 Toyota Tacoma DCSB - Stock on 32's- Wifes
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01-10-2019, 10:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phattyduck
You shouldn't have rubbing issue with that tire size. You'll want to get more caster put in the alignment to move the wheels forward.
As for the height issue... measure from the center of the hub to the fender lip to get ride of tire size issues. What are you getting?
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Rear is 22", front is 20".
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It does seem like some spacers where removed but that should only be about an inch lost.
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No spacers, just the OME 3" lift. Which technically was 2.5 front and 3 rear but mine measured 3" at all 4 corners when completed.
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I'm also intrigued with how you could've left the shop without first visually noticing the 2" difference in height or notice the rake when driving.
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Just didnt pay enough attention to why that bolt was rubbing when it never had before. I thought it looked a little low but just didnt put it together, probably have too much else going on. Not great on my part!
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01-10-2019, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MtnT4R
Rear is 22", front is 20".
No spacers, just the OME 3" lift. Which technically was 2.5 front and 3 rear but mine measured 3" at all 4 corners when completed.
Just didnt pay enough attention to why that bolt was rubbing when it never had before. I thought it looked a little low but just didnt put it together, probably have too much else going on. Not great on my part!
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Do you have the OME 883 coils designed for 200lb extra weight?
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1990 Eagle Talon Tsi- E316G @ 32psi E85 Tuned, 272 cams, ECMlink v3.0, 405whp - Gave back to Brother
2012 Toyota Tacoma DCSB - Stock on 32's- Wifes
2004 Cadillac CTS-V - 5.7L LS6 v8, 6-speed 400hp/400tq - My new DD
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01-10-2019, 10:46 PM
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Quote:
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Do you have the OME 883 coils designed for 200lb extra weight?
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No, after talking with Toytec they assured me I needed to go regular coils for just the steel bumper, then upgrade to the heavy coils when I add a winch.
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01-10-2019, 10:55 PM
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No, after talking with Toytec they assured me I needed to go regular coils for just the steel bumper, then upgrade to the heavy coils when I add a winch.
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Well standard 880 coils give 1.5" lift. 881s are standard weight give 2" lift and 3"with spacers. . 883s are the heavy coils that give 3" lift but are super stiff without weight. So if your running standard coils without spacers 2" lift is all you would net.
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1990 Eagle Talon Tsi- E316G @ 32psi E85 Tuned, 272 cams, ECMlink v3.0, 405whp - Gave back to Brother
2012 Toyota Tacoma DCSB - Stock on 32's- Wifes
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01-10-2019, 10:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JayRolla
Well standard 880 coils give 1.5" lift. 881s are standard weight give 2" lift and 3"with spacers. . 883s are the heavy coils that give 3" lift but are super stiff without weight. So if your running standard coils without spacers 2" lift is all you would net.
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Yeah the 881s were advertised to give 2.5" but after lifting my measurements were 3". But even if I measured wrong I still lost 1.5" of lift after the new LCAs were installed. And those OME shocks didnt come with spacers.
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01-10-2019, 11:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MtnT4R
Yeah the 881s were advertised to give 2.5" but after lifting my measurements were 3". But even if I measured wrong I still lost 1.5" of lift after the new LCAs were installed. And those OME shocks didnt come with spacers.
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Post up a side pic. I got 3" on 881s and toytec spacers. Added winch with steel line and bumper and sit around 2.5". And that's on a 96 that sits the lowest stock of them all.
Who installed the lift 1st time around. I don't see how you can loose that much left with just changing the lcas
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2012 Toyota Tacoma DCSB - Stock on 32's- Wifes
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Rear is 22", front is 20".
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Oh boy! Your front is at "stock" ride height and the rear has a 2" lift. Something is up.
Can you post a picture of the front coils/shocks? (turn the front wheel to get a pic of the whole setup)
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