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Old 12-05-2022, 05:56 PM #16
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Department of Homeland security has banned Hangzhou Hikvision Digital Technology Co., Ltd., often shortened to Hikvision, is a Chinese state-owned manufacturer and supplier of video surveillance equipment for civilian and military purposes, headquartered in Hangzhou, Zhejiang.

Its parent company makes about 90% of all the DVR and camera systems in existence.

This is why I am probably going to end up building my own. As in stand alone mode its not a critical. However, you hook these to the internet.. Its possible the Chinese military is seeing all your video feeds as a pile of them use those p2p connections with Chinese own domains hosting those servers.

Thus why the Homeland security banned them. They are banned in all local and federal government buildings along with military bases. The FCC even revised it further and stop short of telling people to remove them if they have them installed.

So its a major bummer as nobody else mfg this type of equipment. Its probably the reason a lot of these cameras and systems are sold so cheaply.. Free surveillance for the Chinese state sponsored government.

This is hikivision only. The real kicker is there isn't a list of approved equipment. which makes the issue worse.

So you might have to use on of those 6 channel cameras systems. :/ For what I want those wont work.
Thank u, this is really good info, always thought this was a bad idea and glad to c r nation starting to taking it serious.
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yes, no diff then driving a van, truck, etc that have slide in campers, used for moving, work tools,etc, etc... U have to have 2 way to viewing the rear, ie side mirriors x2, one side and rear view mirror. (there r state specific rules that vary as well)

cameras r just something I want, my current 4runner the rear and side windows are all blocked by shit on the inside for many yrs. the cameras add extra viewing and protection in case MVR or road rage incident.
Duh totally forgot about that and I used to drive a transit that didn't have any windows for work. It didn't have a backup cam either and it made me totally paranoid anytime I had to back out of parking spots. I would always check my surroundings and run into the van quickly, start it up and back out. Hit a damn retaining wall backing out of a customers driveway one day. Thankfully a bit later the company gave me a ram van that did have a backup cam.
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Did you ever find a solution that seemed good for this? I was looking at just doing a wireless dual cam setup but then ran across people talking about how most of those won't take the vibration of offroad. I'm willing to do wired as well (probably be much cheaper) but definitely want cameras that can take abuse.
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I'm still at the same point as when I OPed the question. Until a system is run for a bit on an offloading rig not sure one can say they found a solution but I'm at a point I need to make decisions as to what path I'm going so I can build any mounting points and/or electric body pass through's for said system before I finish up my body work and paint. Trying to get an email out to the sellers of the system I referenced about the safe fleet units and go from there...
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Didn't even know a 4 way auto camera was a thing until this post... (1 example I found on amazon)...

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Yes. I been looking into this off and on for years. I found a dash cam with 3 channels . Just not 4.

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Both... so far it looks like I'd need to get 2 DVR systems that run independently of the other (still researching). With my build I want one screen that is a full time rear camera because:
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Currently working on this to mount 3 screens {maybe 4 but current plan is 3 (rear, L-side, R-side), with the ability to switch to spotter views on the side cameras}:
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May I ask why you paneled in the windows? Just curious....
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May I ask why you paneled in the windows? Just curious....
no possibility of breaking a side glass wheeling, maximizing usable space inside, cant weld to glass that easily, the vehicles intended use, etc
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no possibility of breaking a side glass wheeling, maximizing usable space inside, cant weld to glass that easily, the vehicles intended use, etc
Gotcha. I'd think the visibility loss would be a big deal....but probably more so on the street than trail.

More interesting to me is that you added sheet metal behind the rear door and moved the wheel well back several inches. I'm assuming you did that to relocate the rear axle farther back. How many inches are you moving it? I'm planning 4-7" rearward on mine and think I'm just going to hack the body to clear it. Yours likely looks way nicer than mine will.....

What are the boxes on the windows for? They look almost like vents??

Is that a spare tire mount on the back door? What size tires are you planning to run?

It looks like there are 4 pieces of round tubing coming out of the top of the roof...what are those for?

Sorry for all the questions....just a lot of interesting things going on in that photo. Do you have a build thread by chance?

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Gotcha. I'd think the visibility loss would be a big deal....but probably more so on the street than trail.

More interesting to me is that you added sheet metal behind the rear door and moved the wheel well back several inches. I'm assuming you did that to relocate the rear axle farther back. How many inches are you moving it? I'm planning 4-7" rearward on mine and think I'm just going to hack the body to clear it. Yours likely looks way nicer than mine will.....

What are the boxes on the windows for? They look almost like vents??

Is that a spare tire mount on the back door? What size tires are you planning to run?

It looks like there are 4 pieces of round tubing coming out of the top of the roof...what are those for?

Sorry for all the questions....just a lot of interesting things going on in that photo. Do you have a build thread by chance?
The visibility loss is more of an issue on the trail then street, hardly notice on the street as where the tighter space constraints on the trail...

Roughly 10" rearward, wanted a cleaner look so I filled in the space to give the body a nicer appearance and also reworked the inside floor relative to said. I was already completely remaking the wheel-well to accommodate the 16" coil-overs, new axle assembly, and double triangulated 4 link.

They r vents

Yes its a spare mount, 35" DD for better road manners with the ability to run 37" without issue if a later choose, and bigger with limiting travel.

There r 12 "round tubes," recreated to roof top rack mounting points to better transfer the weight/energy into the side structure of the 4runner and easier to mount the rooftop box.

no build tread, should be able to look at passed posts to get a better idea
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The visibility loss is more of an issue on the trail then street, hardly notice on the street as where the tighter space constraints on the trail...

Roughly 10" rearward, wanted a cleaner look so I filled in the space to give the body a nicer appearance and also reworked the inside floor relative to said. I was already completely remaking the wheel-well to accommodate the 16" coil-overs, new axle assembly, and double triangulated 4 link.

They r vents

Yes its a spare mount, 35" DD for better road manners with the ability to run 37" without issue if a later choose, and bigger with limiting travel.

There r 12 "round tubes," recreated to roof top rack mounting points to better transfer the weight/energy into the side structure of the 4runner and easier to mount the rooftop box.

no build tread, should be able to look at passed posts to get a better idea

YMMV....I don't look out the rear most windows on the trail, but I do look out them to check blindspots on the freeway before changing lanes.

Thanks for the info....looks very interesting and outside the box. :thumbsup:
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