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Huh? What do you mean it's the front fender that Charlie clarified? Maybe you missed my comment. I identified for the OP that the damaged connector goes to the ADD actuator on the front differential. Charlie confirmed what I said. What Charlie said is it's NOT one of the connectors for the vacuum switching valves on the driver side fender well.
The ECU coolant temp sensor DOES come off the passenger side of the engine wiring harness, not the driver side.
Dude, what have you been smoking? Let me know because I'd like some so I could do some hallucinating as well.
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Why do you do that? My original comment was the wrong connector. I said I was wrong and that Charlie had the correct part of the harness...
I been smoking nothing I am glad to see its been corrected. I was just trying to help a user and I immediately contacted him saying I was wrong. I even offered to if i had the connector to send it to him so he can fix his harness..
There is no reason to act like this when people are wrong.
As you missing the purpose of being here. Its to help people fix their rigs.
You are wrong at times, and that happens. I do didn't appreciate the comment at all that I am smoking something. Your not funny when you do this as you may think you are. As you see Charlie corrected the mistake that I made. Apparenetly TheDurk missed it to.
Please don't go on some tangent trying to justify yourself. I will delete my comments on this thread that not accurate. This way it will be accurate leaving this thread cleaner. Thus Correcting it.
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09-27-2023, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Brandt
I think caused confusion with the photo link. The photo isn't of my specific harness, it's just an example photo for illustrative purposes. My wires aren't cut after the connector joint as in the photo. The connectors were disconnected during removal prep, and the part of the connector that was on the harness side is what was pulled off the wire. So one half of the connector is still on the car, and the other is missing.
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I may have the part you are looking for Brandit. If you want it or need me to send it to you PM me and will will talk.
Again, I am sorry for the confusion on the harness and misinformation. :-)
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09-27-2023, 01:25 PM
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Why do you do that? My original comment was the wrong connector. I said I was wrong and that Charlie had the correct part of the harness...
I been smoking nothing I am glad to see its been corrected. I was just trying to help a user and I immediately contacted him saying I was wrong. I even offered to if i had the connector to send it to him so he can fix his harness..
There is no reason to act like this when people are wrong.
As you missing the purpose of being here. Its to help people fix their rigs.
You are wrong at times, and that happens. I do didn't appreciate the comment at all that I am smoking something. Your not funny when you do this as you may think you are. As you see Charlie corrected the mistake that I made. Apparenetly TheDurk missed it to.
Please don't go on some tangent trying to justify yourself. I will delete my comments on this thread that not accurate. This way it will be accurate leaving this thread cleaner. Thus Correcting it.
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Dude, the reason for my comment is your comment was really really out there. And, I see you deleted that comment.
First of all, Charlie WASN'T the first one to identify the correct plug the OP damaged. It was ME. Second of all, you misquoted what Charlie was saying. Charlie wasn't saying it was one of the plugs going to the switching valves on the fenders but rather to the ADD actuator. Your comment was this "Yep, I was wrong. It's the front fender that Charlie clarified." So, your comment made zero sense to me and probably anyone else who had read through the thread and actually saw my comment before Charlie's
Then you said this, "I thought the ecu coolant came off the passenger side of the injector harness not drivers." Well, the plug that goes to the ECT DOES come off the passenger side of the harness, NOT the driver side. Again, another mistake you made.
So, from my perspective, you weren't firing on all cylinders. I know you know these vehicles fairly well, so that's the reason for my "What have you been smoking comment?"
I'm far from being a politically correct person and I call things as I see them. I'm guessing you're not use to people talking like I do which is how a lot of guys do when they are busting each other's chops. I guess not everyone can take this kind of banter.
It sounds like I upset you, and if that is the case, I apologize.
I just found it mildly annoying that what I contributed to this subject matter was completely missed by you. It's not like the thread is 20 pages long and you missed my comments, so I felt a little dissed by you. But here, I'll help you. I correctly identify the plug the OP broke in Post #7 https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3813033-post7.html
I love Charlie. I think he's an awesome contributor. I actually shot a very important video with him at my house. But, it just so happens I contribute a fair amount as well. Just some perspective for you from my point of view.
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09-27-2023, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandt
Unfortunately, I don't have any closer photos, or from a different angle. The challenge I'm faced with is that the connector was pulled from the wire and I'm unable to find where it ended up. So I have no direct comparison to find a matching replacement part. If I had that part, I'd probably just relieve the pins and pull them out, then re-terminate the cables and reuse the connector.
I did find this ebay auction. 4Runner ADD Differential Disconnect Vacuum Switch Valve CONNECTOR PLUG Pigtails | eBay
I wonder whether the t tab variant could be considered universal.
Any feedback on this?
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Don't make this harder than it needs to be. Any waterproof 2-pin connector can be used in that location. Polarity doesn't matter. Just replace it if you can't find the other half.
Mine broke the ADD switch itself, so it was more expensive damage than yours...
Here's a picture of the 4WD-related wires. Near the bottom is the section of harness in question - just replace it with anything that will connect those wires. The bottom left connector goes to the ADD switch, the middle bottom connector just connects two parts of the harness.
-Charlie
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09-28-2023, 08:54 PM
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Dude, the reason for my comment is your comment was really really out there. And, I see you deleted that comment.
First of all, Charlie WASN'T the first one to identify the correct plug the OP damaged. It was ME. Second of all, you misquoted what Charlie was saying. Charlie wasn't saying it was one of the plugs going to the switching valves on the fenders but rather to the ADD actuator. Your comment was this "Yep, I was wrong. It's the front fender that Charlie clarified." So, your comment made zero sense to me and probably anyone else who had read through the thread and actually saw my comment before Charlie's
Then you said this, "I thought the ecu coolant came off the passenger side of the injector harness not drivers." Well, the plug that goes to the ECT DOES come off the passenger side of the harness, NOT the driver side. Again, another mistake you made.
So, from my perspective, you weren't firing on all cylinders. I know you know these vehicles fairly well, so that's the reason for my "What have you been smoking comment?"
I'm far from being a politically correct person and I call things as I see them. I'm guessing you're not use to people talking like I do which is how a lot of guys do when they are busting each other's chops. I guess not everyone can take this kind of banter.
It sounds like I upset you, and if that is the case, I apologize.
I just found it mildly annoying that what I contributed to this subject matter was completely missed by you. It's not like the thread is 20 pages long and you missed my comments, so I felt a little dissed by you. But here, I'll help you. I correctly identify the plug the OP broke in Post #7 https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3813033-post7.html
I love Charlie. I think he's an awesome contributor. I actually shot a very important video with him at my house. But, it just so happens I contribute a fair amount as well. Just some perspective for you from my point of view.
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I deleted the comments to prevent confusion as the my information was wrong. I was thinking originally the temp sensor, then I was thinking possible the add side which was wrong section. So it was best to delete the wrong info out to clean this thread. :-)
I will never understand your constant need for recognition. Its almost as if you have major ego issues.
I mean you actually got jacked and attacked me because I didn't mention you. I really hate to say this but that is silly and no reason to violate forum rules. I have had people ignore me on threads not acknowledge things and really didn't think anything of it. As the goal of this forum is to get things fixed and help people. Not be about a person, nor how many threads they have. Nor how many likes as if that is reason folks are here. These are things are irrelevant.
I have no problem ever being corrected when information is wrong. This is how people learn and get better. Understand things more thoroughly. I just have a major problem being called a stoner or saying I am high or be made fun of. Plus you actually did it because I didn't acknowledge you in a thread.....
I am sorry, I have no words for this. :/
Another thing... Please don't call me Dude, My name is Brillo or Jon.. I am not a surfer. :-)
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09-28-2023, 10:59 PM
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OKAY. So let's try to get to the solution. The switch in this case appears to be Transfer Switch No. 3, p/n 84222-35070 aka ADD Inicator Switch A10 on the '99 EWD. That connector housing is p/n 90980-11250 if you want to buy a new one and you have usable wire treminals lying around. It is a gray two-wire plug, just to confirm.
So a little Googling reveals that this switch is used as back-up light switch on several other models and is in enough demand that a bunch of folks carry the whole pigtail. The pictures show these do match up to the pinout A10 diagram in my '99 paper EWD, page 204. Suppliers include:
Home >> Shop >> Connectors / Harnesses >> Yazaki >> 2 Way Connector Plug Pigtail for Toyota Transfer case, backup lights 90980-11250 (BUL & 4WD indicator)
Amazon.com
Walmart.com
Here is the end-on shot of the first pigtail above. Clearly a good match to the male switch above:
Note again that what Toyota sells under this p/n is just the housing, no wires, and the MSRP is $12.15. You would then need two repair wires, if you can't junk source them. They are pretty common. But I can look up the p/n for them if your heart is set on new OEM replacement. I just can't do it on this computer. The housing looks like this:
Hope this helps...
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09-29-2023, 03:00 PM
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I deleted the comments to prevent confusion as the my information was wrong. I was thinking originally the temp sensor, then I was thinking possible the add side which was wrong section. So it was best to delete the wrong info out to clean this thread. :-)
I will never understand your constant need for recognition. Its almost as if you have major ego issues.
I mean you actually got jacked and attacked me because I didn't mention you. I really hate to say this but that is silly and no reason to violate forum rules. I have had people ignore me on threads not acknowledge things and really didn't think anything of it. As the goal of this forum is to get things fixed and help people. Not be about a person, nor how many threads they have. Nor how many likes as if that is reason folks are here. These are things are irrelevant.
I have no problem ever being corrected when information is wrong. This is how people learn and get better. Understand things more thoroughly. I just have a major problem being called a stoner or saying I am high or be made fun of. Plus you actually did it because I didn't acknowledge you in a thread.....
I am sorry, I have no words for this. :/
Another thing... Please don't call me Dude, My name is Brillo or Jon.. I am not a surfer. :-)
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I'm just sharing my observations on your contribution to this subject matter Jon. It was pretty out there.
I don't need constant recognition. Now, do I have an ego? At some level I guess I do. It's human nature to feel good about helping people. So yeah, when someone recognizes my contributions, it's nice. Running my YouTube channel isn't a big money maker. What I feed off of is I know I'm helping people. People commenting on our videos and letting us know we helped them out is the thing that keeps us motivated to keep doing it. If I was doing it just for the money, I would have quit a long time ago.
I just found it interesting and annoying how you could read past my original post and than my exchange with Charlie. Like I said, this thread is pretty short. One of the jobs we have as contributors is to read through the comments so we know what was already contributed by others. If it was 20 pages long, I would excuse you acting like I didn't exist. I called you out on it, and you took offense to my gruff communication style. I agree it's not for everyone. I've worked as a Correctional Officer, Deputy Sheriff and Firefighter and this type of language is used day in and day out. You definitely wouldn't have survived in Pubic Safety work.
Now that I know you're a little on the sensitive side, I'll be more professional with any exchange with you in the future. But, most likely, further exchanges with you probably won't happen. It's one of the nice things we can choose as contributors of this forum. So Jon, ignore me in the future to your heart's content.
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09-29-2023, 03:42 PM
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I'm just sharing my observations on your contribution to this subject matter Jon. It was pretty out there.
I don't need constant recognition. Now, do I have an ego? At some level I guess I do. It's human nature to feel good about helping people. So yeah, when someone recognizes my contributions, it's nice. Running my YouTube channel isn't a big money maker. What I feed off of is I know I'm helping people. People commenting on our videos and letting us know we helped them out is the thing that keeps us motivated to keep doing it. If I was doing it just for the money, I would have quit a long time ago.
I just found it interesting and annoying how you could read past my original post and than my exchange with Charlie. Like I said, this thread is pretty short. One of the jobs we have as contributors is to read through the comments so we know what was already contributed by others. If it was 20 pages long, I would excuse you acting like I didn't exist. I called you out on it, and you took offense to my gruff communication style. I agree it's not for everyone. I've worked as a Correctional Officer, Deputy Sheriff and Firefighter and this type of language is used day in and day out. You definitely wouldn't have survived in Pubic Safety work.
Now that I know you're a little on the sensitive side, I'll be more professional with any exchange with you in the future. But, most likely, further exchanges with you probably won't happen. It's one of the nice things we can choose as contributors of this forum. So Jon, ignore me in the future to your heart's content.
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Tim. We litterly had to switch to email and private messing and email for these connectors over you to get this fixed for the OP needs help.
Why don't you just let it go. I am getting paragraphs again trying to justify yourself. Which I asked you not to do. Ok. I made a mistake on identifying some connectors.
You just do not do what you did. If you can't understand that making fun of people is wrong I can't help you.
Please stop as I am really close to reporting this to moderators as now its way off topic and when people ask you to stop and you don't what choice are you leaving me.
I am done with this subject already. Its extremely off topic and a waste of time. Best of luck to you.
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09-29-2023, 03:48 PM
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Tim. We litterly had to switch to email and private messing and email for these connectors over you to get this fixed for the OP needs help.
Why don't you just let it go. I am getting paragraphs again trying to justify yourself. Which I asked you not to do. Ok. I made a mistake on identifying some connectors.
You just do not do what you did. If you can't understand that making fun of people is wrong I can't help you.
Please stop as I am really close to reporting this to moderators as now its way off topic and when people ask you to stop and you don't what choice are you leaving me.
I am done with this subject already. Its extremely off topic and a waste of time. Best of luck to you.
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Yeah, I'm beyond done too. Have a nice life.
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10-04-2023, 10:33 PM
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For Future readers:
I found the harness piece I thought I had. I read these off the connectors as every connector first numbers are always 90980 -xxxxx
The female connector on the actuator switch part number 90980-11250
The second male connector up from the actuator switch part number 90980-11155
The connector off the main harness that Tim identified and phattyduck verified part number 90980-11156.
For the wire connectors pigtails, I add the Wire Harness Repair manual [RM1022E]
Hopefully, this will help others down the road..
I am also seeing another issue..tapatalk is leaving out comments or not always loading things. I never saw TheDurks additional comments on this thread until now with part numbers...Interesting.. Very interesting indeed. Unless the forum is not indexing correctly. Who knows. :-)
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