05-09-2019, 11:01 AM
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New Owner, some concerns
Hello everyone.
New to the forums and 4runners in general.
Let me tell you a quick story.
About two months ago I purchased a brand new 19 Tacoma SR5.
I had tons of vibration problems to include brake pedal, gas pedal, seats, steering wheel.
I also had the "rumble strip" vibrations when slowing. After many dealership trips later and no fix, I decided to trade it in for my 4runner.
I now have a 19 T4R TRD OR, all stock.
I am having steering wheel vibrations in this vehicle, especially at highway speeds. Barely noticeable around town. I also have a minor steering wheel wobble at highway speeds at around 60mph. After tires warm up, the wobble pretty much goes away but it does come back here and there. Vibrations persist though. Feels like I am holding hair clippers. It's a "buzz" type vibration.
I can also feel some vibrations in the brake pedal when slowing down. It's weird in the sense that it doesn't always do it, and sometimes its worse than other times.
I have lost a lot of sleep over the Tacoma, and now i'm starting to lose sleep over this one, especially after losing money on my trade.
A few questions;
Are steering wheel vibrations of any kinda normal in this vehicle? Is it something I just need to live with?
I want to do a leveling kit, front only, and I am concerned this will just make things worse. Your thoughts on this?
I am taking the vehicle in to Discount Tire for RFB today, but not too hopeful it'll completely remove the vibrations all together.
Is it crazy to think the steering wheel should have ZERO vibrations of any kind?
I have read through tons of post on this forums and others. It seems some have found fixes, and others not. From what I can tell, there are far more people that have found NO fix as opposed to ones who have actually found a fix.
I appreciate any feedback guys. Thank you
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05-09-2019, 11:08 AM
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I suggest you try looking up users here who live in your area. Ask if they have the same problem. If they so no, arrange a ride to compare vehicles.
Have you had 4x4 vehicles in the past?
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05-09-2019, 11:10 AM
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I suggest you try looking up users here who live in your area. Ask if they have the same problem. If they so no, arrange a ride to compare vehicles.
Have you had 4x4 vehicles in the past?
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Thank you for the reply.
Yes I had a 2016 Nissan Frontier 4x4. Had ZERO steering wheel or pedal vibrations.
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05-09-2019, 11:13 AM
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Hi and welcome to 4Runner!
It certainly sounds like a front wheel(s) out of balance with the steering wheel and brake wobble. I do not have this issue while in 2WD, there is a little feel through the steering wheel while in 4WD. I would say to have the dealership rebalance the tire/wheels, I would not pay for a balance. I had very little experience with the stock Dunlaps as I went to an AT tire at 500 miles thus I cannot comment if there is a problem balancing the OEMs. If you are still going to Discount Tire, ask about that tire or any suggestion for a better balanced tire.
Lastly, I did a front lift to level out my Trail and I have no wobble from it.
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05-09-2019, 11:16 AM
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Hi and welcome to 4Runner!
It certainly sounds like a front wheel(s) out of balance with the steering wheel and brake wobble. I do not have this issue while in 2WD, there is a little feel through the steering wheel while in 4WD. I would say to have the dealership rebalance the tire/wheels, I would not pay for a balance. I had very little experience with the stock Dunlaps as I went to an AT tire at 500 miles thus I cannot comment if there is a problem balancing the OEMs. If you are still going to Discount Tire, ask about that tire or any suggestion for a better balanced tire.
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Thank you. I am taking it to Discount Tire because my friend works there and will do it for free. Also, I have VERY little faith in dealerships, especially here in Vegas. They all seem to be clueless.
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05-09-2019, 11:43 AM
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A buzz vibration doesn't seem normal if that's truly what you're feeling, but the steering wheel shake is pretty common. Start with balancing tires as a first step. I never could get my stock tires perfect. On my 2nd set that balanced well, no issues.
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05-09-2019, 11:57 AM
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Are the stock BRIDGESTONE DUELER H/T tires garbage?
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05-09-2019, 12:04 PM
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Have you asked the dealer? You said your friend works for DT but if it's alignment or other on a new 4R I would drop by the dealer. I have zero vibrations with my 4R but when I went to a more aggressive tire it has a different feel which is expected. Good luck getting this resolved.
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05-09-2019, 12:06 PM
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I've had my TRD ORP for just over a year. I had the dealer throw on TRD Pro wheels with Terra Grapplers and I've never felt anything like the symptoms you described. I ran SpiderTrax spacers for a few months and had some shakes as I sped up to highway speeds. I now have FN FX Pro wheels with Ridge Grapplers and am back to zero issues.
I would bet it's related to your wheels/tires but none of that is normal.
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05-09-2019, 12:35 PM
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I have a 2018 TRD OR with the stock Bridgestone Dueler H/Ts. I have about 7k miles on it, live in the SF Bay Area and have driven to SoCal, Seattle and Utah. Zero wobble/shaking or vibrations.
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05-09-2019, 03:33 PM
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Are the stock BRIDGESTONE DUELER H/T tires garbage?
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I got rid of mine at about 27k. The never vibrated. They had good tread still, but I kept getting punctures near the side walls. Small tears appeared from mild trail riding.
Could never figure out if it was stumps or rocks causing the most damage. I do not have any trouble, on the same trails, with my Cooper RTX E load tires.
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05-10-2019, 10:14 AM
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Are the stock BRIDGESTONE DUELER H/T tires garbage?
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Yes, they are terrible. We took them off our 2019 4runner and got some falkens. Put the duelers on my 05 frontier 2wd pickup because I needed new tires. They are fine for driving but my truck wan'ts to travel all over the road when braking at freeway speeds. Oh well, just trying to get a couple years out of that truck and then we are going to get a tacoma or tundra.
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05-09-2019, 02:27 PM
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Thank you. I am taking it to Discount Tire because my friend works there and will do it for free. Also, I have VERY little faith in dealerships, especially here in Vegas. They all seem to be clueless.
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This is the best kind of friend. Any wink wink deals to replace the OEMs to improve the balancing problems or make the 4Runner look like a 4Runner.
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05-09-2019, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulB-2006 T4R
This is the best kind of friend. Any wink wink deals to replace the OEMs to improve the balancing problems or make the 4Runner look like a 4Runner.
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I will be asking him today lol...
I defiently do no want to spend money right now, but it's so tempting.
What do you guys recommend as far as the smoothest riding AT type tires?
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05-09-2019, 03:11 PM
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The Duelers are garbage, but I never had any wobble issues at all. As far as the reason why I say they are garbage, one tire the wheel split in the center and I had to have it replaced at 20k. Toyota would do nothing so I had to get Firestone to replace one for $96. The other 3 were worn out at 30k even. The guy at one Firestone place I went to said the concrete in cities will wear them faster than out in the country on asphalt. Never had tires wear out like that before, thus they are garbage. Ugly too.
Regarding my BFG K02s, after bout 3500 miles I started to get a slight wobble at about 60 mpg. Went down to Discount Tire and got a road force balance and everything good now. Rotate tires at least every 5000k. They are C-Load and ride very good with minimal noise for an AT. Expensive though unless you get them during Black Friday.
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