1) How much adjustability do you get with these? "Threaded bodies on struts allow for fine tuning of height and offer further improvements in cooling."
2) Do the Long Travel(IMS59-50574) add an additional 1" of lift?
The whole body is threaded, so you could go from 0" to 4" technically, not that you can go that high without causing other issues.
The 574s also have a fully threaded body so you can set them to add 1" of lift or not.
The 574s also have a fully threaded body so you can set them to add 1" of lift or not.
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Based on this, any reason to not get the long travel versions? I'm not looking at a ton of lift, just curious. Will likely go with the 2" coils after lo-pro / winch bumper, was concerned about pushing it to 3" as I'd like to try and not replace UCA's.
The whole body is threaded, so you could go from 0" to 4" technically, not that you can go that high without causing other issues.
The 574s also have a fully threaded body so you can set them to add 1" of lift or not.
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Awesome! I was trying to stay around 2.5/1, that is why I was asking about adjustability. The closer to 2.5 in the front the better for me. Thanks for the info. I think this just moved up to #1 on my list.
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Had a few people ask about this, so I just wrote this up, and also added it to the first post.
Setting coil seat height
The IMS59-50700 come with a full threaded body, and the coil seat height needs to be set prior to installing the coils onto them. A proper strut coil compressor is required. Regular rental compressors can have teeth that hold the coil which are too thick, they won't work, as you probably won't be able to get the teeth out once the coil is on the strut. We offer the assembly of the front coilovers with new top mounts for an extra charge.
2 base options:
213mm - Base setting, same as OE, for coil seat height. Use this with lifted coil springs to let the coils do the lifting only
226mm - Taller setting, adds 1" of lift to whatever coil springs you're using. Use this setting with a 2" coil to produce 3" of lift, for example.
Spin both collars down on the strut almost to the bottom. Never use any locktight, it will gum up the threads and it's not necessary once you see the step below.
Slide the coil seat onto the strut, with the flattest side facing down (notch facing upwards for coil to sit against)
Using a tape measure, hold the tape against the lip/notch of the coil seat (where the pigtail of the coil will sit) and measure down to center of the lower mounting hole. Raise or lower the top adjuster collar until the coil seat is in the correct position.
Once the height is set, take both adjuster tools that were supplied. Hold the top adjuster in place, and bring the 2nd adjuster up to the top one, and lock them together. This is the same as "double nutting". This is insurance to keep the top adjuster in position and keep the height where it is.
If ever you need to adjust the coilover up or down, ALWAYS undo the lower adjuster FIRST, slide it down out of the way, then adjust the upper adjuster to the correct position. If you try to move both adjusters at once, the threads will most likely get damaged and you won't be happy.
I'll be making a video and posting it up when I get a chance, as it's a pretty simple process, but worth getting a visual for too.
Based on this, any reason to not get the long travel versions? I'm not looking at a ton of lift, just curious. Will likely go with the 2" coils after lo-pro / winch bumper, was concerned about pushing it to 3" as I'd like to try and not replace UCA's.
If you don't have aftermarket upper control arms you are likely to exceed the range of angle built into the stock upper control arm. So you could damage the upper control arm ball joint. I don't know the full extended length of these though so it's hard to say on whether they'd cause an issue or not.
Also FWIW - most other shocks that come in regular or extended length like Fox or King are actually all the same shock. The regular travel versions have a rubber bumper inside that limits the down travel by a little bit. So if you have them apart to rebuild you can remove that bumper to make them extended travel down the road. Maybe Mike can help with some details on the internals.
The internal reservoir is usually called and IFP or Internal Floating Piston in the other popular brands. It's a tried and true solution.
In my experience with Fox - the service interval is about 15,000 miles and the reason is to replace the spherical bearings. They don't last very long. I would much rather have rubber bushings like these. Every time I have to pull them out to replace the bushings I consider machining out the shock eyes to fit some sort of rubber instead. Rubber is simply better for this application. Otherwise if the build quality is similar - I'd expect the life of these type of shocks to be longer than the OEM due to better seals and better materials throughout. So 100k or more.
If you don't have aftermarket upper control arms you are likely to exceed the range of angle built into the stock upper control arm. So you could damage the upper control arm ball joint. I don't know the full extended length of these though so it's hard to say on whether they'd cause an issue or not.
Also FWIW - most other shocks that come in regular or extended length like Fox or King are actually all the same shock. The regular travel versions have a rubber bumper inside that limits the down travel by a little bit. So if you have them apart to rebuild you can remove that bumper to make them extended travel down the road. Maybe Mike can help with some details on the internals.
The internal reservoir is usually called and IFP or Internal Floating Piston in the other popular brands. It's a tried and true solution.
In my experience with Fox - the service interval is about 15,000 miles and the reason is to replace the spherical bearings. They don't last very long. I would much rather have rubber bushings like these. Every time I have to pull them out to replace the bushings I consider machining out the shock eyes to fit some sort of rubber instead. Rubber is simply better for this application. Otherwise if the build quality is similar - I'd expect the life of these type of shocks to be longer than the OEM due to better seals and better materials throughout. So 100k or more.
Jetboy - thanks for the insight! Good to know the bushings are usually a big reason for the rebuilds - tearing apart a truck every 15K isn't on my to-do list (I drive almost 30K a year).
These are now in stock.
IMS59-50700
IMS59-50701
IMS59-50574
IMS59-50705
IMS59-50575 still don't have an ETA as they aren't out of production and on the way yet.
Any backorders awaiting shipment are leaving today or tomorrow. I'm also posting a video to my Youtube page today on how to adjust and set the height on these. I'll post a link later.
FedEx dropped off a package full of goodies today! These things look great, I can't wait to get them installed!
On a side note - do you know of any mounts that would work to mount the air compressor under the hood? Thinking it could maybe fit in the passenger side back corner.
FedEx dropped off a package full of goodies today! These things look great, I can't wait to get them installed!
On a side note - do you know of any mounts that would work to mount the air compressor under the hood? Thinking it could maybe fit in the passenger side back corner.
Looks great!!
I don't know of any mounts to be honest. Any that fit the ARB twin could probably take this but the compressor must sit upright, not at any other angle.
FedEx dropped off a package full of goodies today! These things look great, I can't wait to get them installed!
On a side note - do you know of any mounts that would work to mount the air compressor under the hood? Thinking it could maybe fit in the passenger side back corner.
Talk to heftyfab, he's in your backyard! He was able to fab a mount for my smittybuilt which looks like the dobnisons compressor. It's rock solid. I have mounted it the other way since I took this pic and it works better, just don't get the hose caught in the fan.