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Originally Posted by Hepar
Interesting. Not sure it would have had the same results if he smelled of alcohol.
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Originally Posted by RunninInGA
that would equal probable cause.
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They don't have probably cause to execute the stop in the first place. The violation of our rights happens BEFORE they make any observations in this scenario.
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Originally Posted by RunninInGA
Right, but it would be naive to think that the only reason for this type of checkpoint is for DUI offenses, right?
Rights which are never exercised are lost...forever.
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Stats published in the Tucson paper bear out these are fishing endeavors, netting far more other 'crimes' than drunk driving.
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Originally Posted by Thai
Does the Constitution even comes into play since these checkpoints do NOT automatically search your car?? They just do a quick interview...as seen on the video. Is that illegal??
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Yes. See my comments above (in this reply).
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Originally Posted by 02SE
It's my opinion that him (or anyone) being stopped randomly, and without just probable cause, (observed or reported driving erratically, etc.) is a violation of his Constitutional rights under the 4th Amendment.
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Exactly!
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Originally Posted by 02SE
When they were asking him the questions, they were closely observing the tracking of his eyes, general demeanor, his speech, and smelling for alcohol, marijuana, etc. to determine if he might be impaired.
They didn't notice anything suspicious in those areas, or he would have been ordered out of his car, to be further checked out.
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It's only AFTER they've violated drivers' rights that they're able to make such observations. It's wrong.
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Originally Posted by westwind77
Seriously, WTF was that about? ...the idiot with the video camera is a perfect example of what is wrong with people these days. ...this douche of society. ...why be a D!CK
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Back at you with WTF! See the comments above. His rights were violated. He exercised what was left of his rights by refusing to answer. His was very polite and calm. Idiot? Douche? D!ck? Really? Get a grip.
