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Old 03-27-2016, 10:13 PM #16
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Yeah, those videos don't show obstacles that are more than 10% as hard as the main part of the Rubicon. I love how the host of the first video is encouraging viewers to go buy a stock Rubicon JK and "bring your buddies, some girls, a tent and sleeping bags" and run the Rubicon Trail. That's horrible advice from someone who obviously didn't see the real obstacles and, apparently has never even seen them on the internet. Anyone doing that without extensive off road skills and luck will be in for a horrible surprise.
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Yeah, those videos don't show obstacles that are more than 10% as hard as the main part of the Rubicon. I love how the host of the first video is encouraging viewers to go buy a stock Rubicon JK and "bring your buddies, some girls, a tent and sleeping bags" and run the Rubicon Trail. That's horrible advice from someone who obviously didn't see the real obstacles and, apparently has never even seen them on the internet. Anyone doing that without extensive off road skills and luck will be in for a horrible surprise.
Hint's why there's so many inexperienced JK drivers out there.
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Do you even wheel, bro? Put down the Toyota fanboy hat and come back to earth.

Assuming equal drivers, a stock 4Runner doesn't come near a stock Wrangler in capability on the trail, and the idea of a showroom 4Runner in any trim competing with a Rubicon on a serious trail is just stupid. There's a lot of reasons 4Runners are superior to Jeep Wranglers, but offroad prowess is not one of them. Wranglers kill it offroad, and the Rubicon package dominates. Nothing else off the showroom floor comes close.
I hope this is referring to the new wranglers vs. new 4runners. I agree with you for the most part, BUT 4runners do better in some offroad conditions even stock. I guess thats why They say "built not bought."
However an older stock wrangler vs. older stock 4runners the 4runner is more capable (available e-locker).

My problem with jeeps is that you sacrifice so much for a slighlty more capable vehicle. Thats for new jeeps
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I hope this is referring to the new wranglers vs. new 4runners. I agree with you for the most part, BUT 4runners do better in some offroad conditions even stock. I guess thats why They say "built not bought."
However an older stock wrangler vs. older stock 4runners the 4runner is more capable (available e-locker).
Sorry, but the Wrangler had an optional TracLoc starting in the late 90s, and the Rubicon trim with front and rear lockers and the 4.1 transfer case started in.. '02? I think '02. There was one or two years in which the 4Runner had an available locker and the Wrangler didn't, and considering the Wranglers' vastly superior wheelbase and clearance, that locker probably just leveled the playing field.

There really is no "offroad condition" in which a 4Runner of any year or trim level can hold a candle to a similarly equipped Wrangler from the same era. They are two different trucks with different sets of priorities, and the Wrangler's priority is offroad. I'm about as big a 4Runner fanboy as you'll find, but I'm realistic. I've shared a good amount of trail time with jeepers, and I know what I'm talking about. The 4Runner is vastly superior to the Wrangler in lots of areas, offroad capability is not one. In that regard, the 4Runner just doesn't measure up.
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That's what I was thinking…just wanted confirmation from someone who's actually seen it more than just on you-tube. THANKS. So it's tamer starting at Lake Tahoe heading west then?

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Both videos look like parts of the Rubicon , maybe the area after (east) of Cadillac hill , closer to Lake Tahoe . That section is just a forest route . Once you go down Cadillac Hill , the rough stuff begins . None of the videos show any of the major obstacles or famous areas ....
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It is great to see talk about using a 4Runner instead of talk about building a 4Runner.
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